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Cars are about to be a software platform, subscriptions and all

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Re: Cars are about to be a software platform, subscriptions and all

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Post by akomtu »

fouric wrote: post #6

This is very, very bad. Music and TV subscriptions? Not great (I want to buy something once and own it), but at least those are luxury purchases. Cars? Not ok - that's critical for me (and many others) to get to my job (bad public transit in the area), groceries, etc. > “You can easily see a major backlash to all this,” said Gartner analyst Michael Ramsay. I wonder how one can maximize that potential backlash, so as…

Precisely because it's so critical, it's a terribly efficient leverage over you, pretty much legalized extortion. Imagine you wake up one morning and your car happily announces that it's updated software overnight and from now on for your safety faceid is required to start the car and an always on driver facing camera will help you to stay focused on the road and arrive safely at your destination no matter where it is. Ah, also, by touching the door handle you agree to the new terms of service. The thing is you have an important appointment in 30 mins.

Re: Cars are about to be a software platform, subscriptions and all

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Post by akomtu »

bozzcl wrote: post #58
fouric wrote: post #6

This is very, very bad. Music and TV subscriptions? Not great (I want to buy something once and own it), but at least those are luxury purchases. Cars? Not ok - that's critical for me (and many others) to get to my job (bad public transit in the area), groceries, etc. > “You can easily see a major backlash to all this,” said Gartner analyst Michael Ramsay. I wonder how one can maximize that potential backlash, so as…

You gotta start small. Boycott. Do not buy cars from companies that do this. Even if they allow you to opt out or they have offerings without these “features”. Then tell your friends and family about it. Hopefully, at least one or two of them will understand or agree. Even if nobody follows your example, you’ve planted the idea in their heads. If you have a blog or social media, write about this. Again, it’s unlikely…

In theory, we would just send a letter to senators and they would pass a law to stop this greedy nonsense. In practice those senators get generous donations from car manufacturers.

Re: Cars are about to be a software platform, subscriptions and all

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olivermarks wrote: post #95

Now is the right time to buy a pre internet car and relevant consumables (belts, alternator, starter etc) of your choice before this becomes an issue. So long as you keep the suspension in good shape, and maintain the drive train properly you will be in good shape to avoid the rentier surveillance culture looming.

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Re: Cars are about to be a software platform, subscriptions and all

#105

Post by toast0 »

coldtea wrote: post #69
radioooooo wrote: post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I do not want ads in traffic. This is non-negotiable for safety reasons alone. LMAO! OK, who's gonna tell him about the ads on the radio?

LMAO fail. Radio is optional as you can switch it off at any time, change the volume, is not imposed by the manufacturer, and you had the option to listen to your own cassetes and later CDs and digital for 50+ years.

You must not have exprienced modern vehicles. My 2013 Chysler Pacifica's factory headunit occasionally stops kicking the watchdog timer and gets rebooted. When that happens, the radio is still playing and can't be switched off or volume adjusted until the thing is done booting.

So no, you can't switch it off at any time.

Re: Cars are about to be a software platform, subscriptions and all

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Post by dehrmann »

fouric wrote: post #6

This is very, very bad. Music and TV subscriptions? Not great (I want to buy something once and own it), but at least those are luxury purchases. Cars? Not ok - that's critical for me (and many others) to get to my job (bad public transit in the area), groceries, etc. > “You can easily see a major backlash to all this,” said Gartner analyst Michael Ramsay. I wonder how one can maximize that potential backlash, so as…

I mostly disagree on TV and movies. They have a lot less replay value than songs, so there isn't much sense buying. Sure, there are exceptions, but season 1 of Two and a Half Men is not worth $35.

Re: Cars are about to be a software platform, subscriptions and all

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Post by GoToRO »

olivermarks wrote: post #95

Now is the right time to buy a pre internet car and relevant consumables (belts, alternator, starter etc) of your choice before this becomes an issue. So long as you keep the suspension in good shape, and maintain the drive train properly you will be in good shape to avoid the rentier surveillance culture looming.

Buy a Dacia. In the latest models they have an official phone holder. As in: you can make your car as smart or as dumb as you want.

Re: Cars are about to be a software platform, subscriptions and all

#109

Post by ipaddr »

jackdrb wrote: post #30
mensetmanusman wrote: post #11

We will rent everything, and we will love it. https://medium.com/illumination/in-2030-youll-own-nothing-an...

'we will love it' is the expectation that companies hope for, but I cannot imagine permanently renting such essential products (for a significant proportion of people) like cars. Fingers crossed, but realistically one can only expect the worst.

I'm not so sure. People rent music now.
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