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Re: Facebook ‘looking into’ hiding of posts calling for PM’s resignation in India

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Post by oasisbob » Wed, Apr 28, 2021, 9:43 PM UTC

baybal2 wrote: post #98

amrrs wrote: post #4

Indian Government recently made Twitter do similar things. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/apr/26/twitter-under-... Do you know what's worst? A guy was booked yesterday for Tweeting he needed oxygen cylinders which according to a state government is spreading fake news. https://thewire.in/government/amethi-up-police-arfa-khanum-s... While COVID hasn't been kind to the people of India, The current regime's atte…

Do you guys still need oxygen there? How is the situation there really? I called a few of my contacts, and get very diverging pictures. No interruptions in Kochi, to some stress in Hyderabad, Chennai, Bengaluru, to total apocalypse in Noida. I see oxygen production being such a basic industrial process, that I never could've imagined even a most poorly industrialised country having troubles producing it. It's tragic…

> I see oxygen production being such a basic industrial process, that I never could've imagined even a most poorly industrialised country having troubles producing it.

This article discusses some of the challenges being faced, sounds like most of them are around distribution. India has a large steel industry which is very capable of generating and condensing oxygen.

https://indianexpress.com/article/india/coronavirus-second-w...

Re: Facebook ‘looking into’ hiding of posts calling for PM’s resignation in India

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Post by naruvimama » Wed, Apr 28, 2021, 9:44 PM UTC

amrrs wrote: post #4

Indian Government recently made Twitter do similar things. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/apr/26/twitter-under-... Do you know what's worst? A guy was booked yesterday for Tweeting he needed oxygen cylinders which according to a state government is spreading fake news. https://thewire.in/government/amethi-up-police-arfa-khanum-s... While COVID hasn't been kind to the people of India, The current regime's atte…

Wasn't that because it was part of a political campaign and foreign actors to spread panic and create chaos.

It is like toilet paper but for oxygen cylinders.

Re: Facebook ‘looking into’ hiding of posts calling for PM’s resignation in India

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Post by baybal2 » Wed, Apr 28, 2021, 9:45 PM UTC

oasisbob wrote: post #101

baybal2 wrote: post #98

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Do you guys still need oxygen there? How is the situation there really? I called a few of my contacts, and get very diverging pictures. No interruptions in Kochi, to some stress in Hyderabad, Chennai, Bengaluru, to total apocalypse in Noida. I see oxygen production being such a basic industrial process, that I never could've imagined even a most poorly industrialised country having troubles producing it. It's tragic…

> I see oxygen production being such a basic industrial process, that I never could've imagined even a most poorly industrialised country having troubles producing it. This article discusses some of the challenges being faced, sounds like most of them are around distribution. India has a large steel industry which is very capable of generating and condensing oxygen. https://indianexpress.com/article/india/coronavirus…

LO2 reserve in any hospital should've been enough for weeks per refill.

And hospital with on-site O2 generation should've never had any issue. Any industrial scale O2 production machinery would've had many times the capacity reserve.

But they didn't. Double digit of hospital O2 generators were out of service, and LO2 tanks were never filled to full because hospitals were saving on LO2 service.

Some hospitals with central O2 systems from either tanks, or generators simply had them disabled for unfathomable reasons, had them broken down years ago without any attempt at repair, or simply never ever used them, so they don't know how to operate them.

Re: Facebook ‘looking into’ hiding of posts calling for PM’s resignation in India

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Post by OJFord » Wed, Apr 28, 2021, 9:46 PM UTC

lindy2021 wrote: post #55

bobthechef wrote: post #40

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What is "religious extremism"? That term always struck me as odd. Either the truth claims of a religion are true, somewhat true, or false. If they're true (read: have sufficiently good reasons to believe them), then it's not extreme to live in accordance with them. In fact, it is arguably insane not to live in accordance with them. Imagine if someone said "Oh, I believe things fall to the ground when dropped, but I'm…

The original meaning of "religion" in Arabic ("Din") is law. What you call "religious error" is tantamount to "illegal behaviour" to others.

That made me naïvely curious about 'Aladdin'; yep: https://en.m.wiktionary.org/wiki/%D8%B9%D9%84%D8%A7%D8%A1_%D...

Seems unrelated to Hindi (via Sanskrit) दिन 'din' meaning 'day' though. (Not that I expected it because 'day' and 'religious' are similar in meaning, just curious because there is overlap, and borrowed terms (well, with Persian, but those in turn often derived or cognate with Arabic, at least in my idly curious Wiktionaring experience anyway).)

Re: Facebook ‘looking into’ hiding of posts calling for PM’s resignation in India

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Post by [deleted] » Wed, Apr 28, 2021, 9:47 PM UTC

asenna wrote: post #5

The media control and censorship here in India is definitely getting our of hand! Setting aside the absolute criminal mismanagement and planning of the Covid situation in the past few months, the fact that the people in power are still applying their brains and might into figuring out how to manipulate the narrative and how to squash dissent in this moment when the country is going through an unimaginable disaster. J…

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Re: Facebook ‘looking into’ hiding of posts calling for PM’s resignation in India

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Post by PragmaticPulp » Wed, Apr 28, 2021, 9:51 PM UTC

baybal2 wrote: post #98

amrrs wrote: post #4

Indian Government recently made Twitter do similar things. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/apr/26/twitter-under-... Do you know what's worst? A guy was booked yesterday for Tweeting he needed oxygen cylinders which according to a state government is spreading fake news. https://thewire.in/government/amethi-up-police-arfa-khanum-s... While COVID hasn't been kind to the people of India, The current regime's atte…

Do you guys still need oxygen there? How is the situation there really? I called a few of my contacts, and get very diverging pictures. No interruptions in Kochi, to some stress in Hyderabad, Chennai, Bengaluru, to total apocalypse in Noida. I see oxygen production being such a basic industrial process, that I never could've imagined even a most poorly industrialised country having troubles producing it. It's tragic…

They don't need bulk oxygen generated ad-hoc. They need medical grade oxygen delivered in standard medical equipment that they can use in a controlled manner right away.

Chemistry experiments won't solve this.

Re: Facebook ‘looking into’ hiding of posts calling for PM’s resignation in India

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Post by xxxtentachyon » Wed, Apr 28, 2021, 9:54 PM UTC

Bang2Bay wrote: post #85

asenna wrote: post #34

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Here's the tweet: https://twitter.com/khanumarfa/status/1386757457393770496?s=... It's in the article as well. The text message was tweeted out. I understand the wire can be considered left-leaning but does that automatically make everything they report on as false? You can ignore their "alt-left" opinion but screenshots of texts and tweets are actual facts that happened.

the correct tweet is the one where the local elected leader was targeted[1]. the leader made police run around to help the person. cops found foul play.[2] What am I missing? [1] https://twitter.com/elsamariedsilva/status/13867600304818954... [2] https://twitter.com/amethipolice/status/1386982878328758273?...

I’m not sure why we should be inclined to trust the police in an environment where the government is clearly making an effort to play down the seriousness of the crisis and their hand in it. It’s also a bit hard to believe that someone would both be trolling hard enough to lie about their grandfather needing oxygen during an oxygen shortage AND give enough information for the authorities to show up and realize he was trolling.

Re: Facebook ‘looking into’ hiding of posts calling for PM’s resignation in India

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Post by baybal2 » Wed, Apr 28, 2021, 9:55 PM UTC

akiselev wrote: post #93

elliekelly wrote: post #54

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I don’t understand what Modi is doing. It seems like many huge companies based in the west will be looking to leave China (as much as possible) in the next 5ish years and India is a democracy perfectly situated to grab all of that economic productivity. They have the education, the infrastructure, and the population. All they have to do is be a bit less dictator-y than China and a bit more respectful of human rights.…

Many Indian politicians learned the exact opposite lesson from the 90s to 2000s when China's economy far outgrew India's despite the supposed geographical, labor, and education similarities between the two (i.e. see the debate from a western perspective in [1][2][3]). The idea that democracy and free markets help with economic growth simply didn't pan out for India w.r.t. its neighbor and biggest rival. As far as Mod…

One needs to be heavily inebriated to call India a market economy even today, after 3 decades of supposed economic "liberalisation."

I myself is in the process of scouting an opening for a satellite office in India now.

The progress India made towards freer markets since a decade ago is this ->_Best to compare it with Bloc of late eighties, early nineties.

Re: Facebook ‘looking into’ hiding of posts calling for PM’s resignation in India

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Post by smt88 » Wed, Apr 28, 2021, 9:57 PM UTC

lindy2021 wrote: post #31

ethbr0 wrote: post #25

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I think that says less about democracy and more about the US' former president.

This is on Biden's watch. Trump was berated for even contemplating deploying the National Guard as American cities burnt last summer.

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Re: Facebook ‘looking into’ hiding of posts calling for PM’s resignation in India

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Post by smt88 » Wed, Apr 28, 2021, 9:58 PM UTC

krapp wrote: post #52

hkt wrote: post #33

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The US just had a pretty good election. Democracy is alive and well.

The US should consider itself lucky that its well armed neo-nazi lunatic fringe and the Orange Man were better at racist shitposting than pulling off a coup d'état. "Pretty good" sounds like a B, but I'd give this last election a C- at best.

Stealing two Supreme Court seats and meddling with the census were essentially a coup. GOP will remain the minority that runs the country for the foreseeable future.