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Re: 4chan founder Chris Poole has left Google

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Post by dfxm12 »

whymauri wrote: post #61
beaconstudios wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

you'd think this would be common knowledge given 4chan is literally an open website, but I always hear these mythologised recountings of it like it's some kind of mysterious inaccessible cult. It's just reddit for people who hate reddit.

>like it's some kind of mysterious inaccessible cult. It's pretty interesting, because as long as I've been conscious on the Internet it's always been posed as an 'inaccessible cult.' Probably due to all the inside jokes, I guess?

it's always been posed as an 'inaccessible cult.'

You gotta ask yourself "by whom?". Actual users of the site, people having serious discussions about the site, writers of pop articles aimed at non-users of the site, or someone else?

Even then, you have this conflation of /b/ (or I guess these days /pol/) and 4chan at large. Some communities are more welcoming than others.

Re: 4chan founder Chris Poole has left Google

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Post by obviouslynotme »

tomatotomato37 wrote: post #79
Rompect wrote: post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I wish there was a mainstream site which has 4chan anonymity and fast pace + reddit thread format. Both become hardly usable with either elitism, censorship and people who think upvotes matter or an absolute cancer to follow conversations in threads.

I'd even take an imageboard with reddit or HN moderation over the reddit-style of social media sites we have today. I'd even allow mandatory registration if the posts themselves are still anonymous to other users Anonymous posting prevents weird popularity cliches from taking over, and post linking via ID allows multiple conversations to flow much smoother than reddit's tree-structured comments. I'd also say that seq…

I think 4chan with only slight moderation would be amazing. Get rid of all porn and illegal stuff. Keep the rest. You could advertise and keep the FBI participation to a minimum.

Re: 4chan founder Chris Poole has left Google

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Post by meepmorp »

jandrese wrote: post #71
zamadatix wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"Google hired Poole in 2016 to work on the company's doomed social media project, Google+... After Google+, Poole apparently joined Google's experimental "Area 120" group and eventually moved on to be a product manager for Google Maps."

An uncharitable opinion might be that Google hired someone with previous social media experience in a last ditch effort to figure out a way to make Google+ a success.

How's that uncharitable? That's probably why the hired him.

Re: 4chan founder Chris Poole has left Google

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Post by dang »

russdpale wrote: post #17

Literal definition of failing upwards. He isn't a boy genuis, he copied code from japanese websites and then fostered one of the most toxic communities in human history. At google, he took a job from someone who was almost certainly way more qualified, both technically and morally.

Please don't post personal attacks to HN. Whether or not you owe $person better, you owe this community better if you're participating in it.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Re: 4chan founder Chris Poole has left Google

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Post by subsubzero »

lucb1e wrote: post #78
staticassertion wrote: post #74

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5 years at Google is forever, and it's not uncommon at all for people to jump around projects at the company. It's also a full year beyond what's necessary to vest. Really silly way to write that.

European here - what's it mean to vest shares? It sounds like some sort of stock options became unlocked? I haven't heard of this thing before, just of stocks being part of salary for small startups that don't have actual money to pay you (or at least, that's what I've heard warnings for on HN).

depends, for a public company like google when you get hired in addition to base salary you may get a yearly bonus and also RSUs which are free google shares, dispersed evenly over 4 years. When you get to year 1 at the company you get the first years shares(1 year vested) deposited in your brokerage account, and then they "vest" and are given to you on a quarterly cadence until the 4 years are up(if you are employed the entire time).

In addition to the initial grant at year 2 during your review some employees get more shares on top of the initial grant(that vest over a certain time frame, usually 2-4 years), these are called stacking RSU grants and its why people stay at FANG companies a long time as these grants stack higher and higher all the while your career progresses and the company stock goes higher.

Re: 4chan founder Chris Poole has left Google

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Post by batch12 »

tomatotomato37 wrote: post #79
Rompect wrote: post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I wish there was a mainstream site which has 4chan anonymity and fast pace + reddit thread format. Both become hardly usable with either elitism, censorship and people who think upvotes matter or an absolute cancer to follow conversations in threads.

I'd even take an imageboard with reddit or HN moderation over the reddit-style of social media sites we have today. I'd even allow mandatory registration if the posts themselves are still anonymous to other users Anonymous posting prevents weird popularity cliches from taking over, and post linking via ID allows multiple conversations to flow much smoother than reddit's tree-structured comments. I'd also say that seq…

yeah that's what I was aiming for, but without the images and karma-- that's why the users were temporary. No need to whore for internet approval because it really doesn't matter.

Re: 4chan founder Chris Poole has left Google

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Post by bruiseralmighty »

okareaman wrote: post #77

I've spent a fair amount of time on 4chan/pol/ for over a decade and my opinion is moot is a decent guy who sold it after he tried to reign in GamerGate and was loudly criticized on the site for it. I don't think Google would have hired him if it weren't for that redeeming quality. I'm fascinated by 4chan because it is a kind of underground United Nations. It's anonymous so people around the world can express themsel…

Started as a /b/tard circa '08 and now read mostly /pol/ and /lit/ because their threads most often follow an argument to its completion. This makes for good reading IMO.

Still go back to /b/ occasionally although the flavor of that board has shifted to a more twitter-like direction that I do not favor. It remains one of the few places online where I can read shitposts with actual artistic merit. Some Facebook groups are only just now maturing to the stage where good satire exists.

I have a theory that forums mature like humans going from childhood name-calling to adult dialectics. But then again /b/ seems to be regressing so maybe I just don't know what I'm talking about.

Re: 4chan founder Chris Poole has left Google

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Post by VWWHFSfQ »

mhh__ wrote: post #98
beaconstudios wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

you'd think this would be common knowledge given 4chan is literally an open website, but I always hear these mythologised recountings of it like it's some kind of mysterious inaccessible cult. It's just reddit for people who hate reddit.

> It's just reddit for people who hate reddit. Isn't that hackernews

it's also hacker news for people who hate hacker news

Re: 4chan founder Chris Poole has left Google

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Post by leetcrew »

jandrese wrote: post #87
leetcrew wrote: post #82

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"reasonable users" is doing a lot of work here. not everyone desires the same level of discourse you do on every site they visit. /b/ has just about the bare minimum level of moderation needed to comply with US law and a lot of people seem to enjoy using it.

/b/ is a good example of a forum that is only trolls at this point, and as you note it does have some moderation. Some of the other forums on 4chan might be better examples, but even those have some moderation. Forums like /tg/ have managed to hang on alright, although their total post volume per day is quite small compared to /b/.

> /b/ is a good example of a forum that is only trolls at this point

and some people enjoy that. you don't have to go there if you aren't one of them.

you're not describing some platonic ideal of an internet forum. you're just describing what you personally want out of one.

Re: 4chan founder Chris Poole has left Google

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Post by therouwboat »

lamp987 wrote: post #60
JeremyBanks wrote: post #40

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Without censorship... so you want a place with nazis? 'cause that's what happens.

This If people's opinions arent watched, selected and filtered, we might get another third reich soon.

"You gotta let nazis be a little nazi, otherwise they are going to start killing people again."
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