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Hire me and pay what you want, just give me interesting work

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Re: Hire me and pay what you want, just give me interesting work

#101
I understand.

I want to be able to have more autonomy on how to do my work. Take a piece of code (large or small) and relentlessness make it better. I don't want to have to explain my self for every little change. I want to be able to deploy my changes every day. I have a grand vision on my head and I want to make it happen. Second guessing my self of what others think, drains my energy.

Re: Hire me and pay what you want, just give me interesting work

#102
post #49

So Francesco says they refuse to do technical interviews and says their CV and Github are proof enough. The CV shows experience as a freelance engineer at Apple for a bit, then an engineer for Samsung which they were made redundant from. Their GitHub is 3 projects, a python script, a breakout board and then a beta libary. They argue that's fine though because they'd work for £1/hr, but the real cost of an upfront hir…

I completely understand your point of view and I would think the same if I were you, but that's probably the kind of work I'm trying to avoid. I only have one life, and I just don't want to be paid to "stay around and do the boring bits", or at least not full-time and in an office. Just as an example, having to stay in the office if there's nothing else to do for the day was absolutely soul-crushing for me. I might b…

Don't want to stay around to do the boring bits required to make a working product that serves a real world use case? Go into academia! Not making a generalization about academics, it's just that academia is one of the few places you can carve out a place to just work on interesting things and get paid for it.

Re: Hire me and pay what you want, just give me interesting work

#104

This is interesting! My own anecdote: when I graduated from college I had zero experience aside from one internship at a small noname company. No one would hire me. I started reaching out to local companies big and small saying I would work for free if they'd use me. Not just programming jobs, but also general IT or even helpdesk jobs - anything remotely computer related. None took me up on my offer. I suppose they s…

it’s not that free labor isn’t worth it, it’s that it’s a lemons problem. that is, (the signaling indicates) uncertainty is high, which is what makes it expensive (or if lucky, a fantastic deal). most people are rather risk-averse and therefore prefer safe choices, with the commensurate relinquishment of potential greater gains (and greater losses). the lesson should be to value your labor correctly, as large deviati…

Of course this was communicated clearly - that the reason I would be willing to work for no pay was because my objective was to gain experience. I also mentioned that if they considered me valuable and worthwhile enough, to feel free to take me on as a "real" employee down the road.

Re: Hire me and pay what you want, just give me interesting work

#105
You'll never find a job that meets these requirements, but you may find a job with good co-workers, a boss who is decent and a healthy work environment. To me, that is nirvana. Just like in a marriage, there's going to be good and bad times. It's the people that make those rough patches bearable.

Sounds to me like you just want flexibility and the opportunity to work on things you find engaging. Don't expect 100% of that all the time but I do think if you look hard enough, you'll find what you seek.

Re: Hire me and pay what you want, just give me interesting work

#106
If such a well-qualified person wants to work for any wage, it will distort the market in the first place (i.e. clients will be even less willing to pay decent rates if people with his qualifications work for any amount). Why doesn't he work for open source projects on his own initiative and at his own discretion and try to finance himself via Patreon or similar? Or he could solve interesting problems for companies at his own risk, let the company check the suitability of the solution (initially as closed source), and then sell it for a fixed price "as is" (including source code). This way the company can save the specification effort, is more willing to outsource the project and the consultant can demonstrate its qualification directly with the solution and the speed with which it develops it. This has worked for me for many years, and I don't have to convince my customers with cheap rates.

Re: Hire me and pay what you want, just give me interesting work

#108

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Because no one owes you a job you like? It's great if what you're good at is what others are looking for. But outside of tech and math that's often a rare proposition.

Conversely, we don't owe anyone labor for uninteresting work. I suppose that's the beauty of having the freedom of choice.

That’s correct. But “freedom of choice” looks like a luxury if run out of money.

Re: Hire me and pay what you want, just give me interesting work

#109

How about: Hire me, pay me what I'm worth, and give me interesting work. Why should we make any compromises on the activity that we'll spend the majority of our lives doing?

It's on you to get the job to be fair. If it's not interesting work then you goofed by accepting the job

Interesting is subjective, you can't make every job interesting to every person.

Re: Hire me and pay what you want, just give me interesting work

#110
>> No fixed hours, I will work when I want.

>> no daily stand-ups

>> Meaningful work means work that I care about

>> This whole thing is not about money, so what the work is about comes first

There is a profound mismatch between what this person is offerring and what anyone would want from a developer, or even the core requirements for effective software development. I'll pass.

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