Both Yahoo and IBM rolled back their very flexible WFH strategies. I don't think super flexible WFH is a lasting trend, because it's obvious that is doesn't work for most of the people. I personally love WFH and I know a lot of HN do too, but I think human nature is that it probably won't work very well for most companies.
SBA executives ‘beyond doubt’ that teleworking employees are more productive
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If nobody ever needs to be in an office it would seem like there is more temptation to hire outside the US for these jobs too.
That's true in general, but probably untenable for SBA jobs specifically (just from the optics of it).
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We actively talk over slack. There's a #random channel, a #stonks channel, et al. There's plenty of banter. But _anyone_ can mute those and focus. I _cannot_ mute a coworker talking loudly next to my desk.
We also _write_ actively over Slack. I write into my text editor as well, I don't feel a difference. I'm staring at the same freaking screen all day, interfacing with individuals that couldn't feel more irreplaceable. Maybe they're advanced ML text and video synthesis models, I don't know. Every day feels the same, like three weeks old chewing gum. Work is effective and incredibly empty. I don't know what we're worki…
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#104I don't understand why we can't just all agree that some people are more productive at home and others are not. It depends on personality, type of role and type of business. We're literally talking about hundreds of millions of people here, so pretty much any universal statement is going to be wrong.
The problem is that a lot of people are productive WFH but until very recently, this contingent had little to no sway or voice. With the pandemic, for the first time there's a major shift to WFH and now some companies want to start reigning that in. People who much prefer WFH are fighting not to lose the momentum of the last year.
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I'd say people who have an "enjoyable" commute is likely in the vanishing minority. And then they can simply reproduce their commute in their leisure time.
Surely anyone can do these activities in their leisure time. My point was that if someone's commute is spent largely doing things like reading or listening to podcasts, one would not share GP's inclination to spend part of one's prior commute time working, and have one's employer reap the benefits of that. I have commuted on trains at various times and used my commute time in this way. Also, where I live in CA there…
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Surely anyone can do these activities in their leisure time. My point was that if someone's commute is spent largely doing things like reading or listening to podcasts, one would not share GP's inclination to spend part of one's prior commute time working, and have one's employer reap the benefits of that. I have commuted on trains at various times and used my commute time in this way. Also, where I live in CA there…
The good part about not commuting is that even if you enjoyed that time, you still _have_ that time to do what you want, you don't necessarily have to work.
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Why - its not like your getting paid for it.
If my salaried job used to make me commute, then work 8 hours, then commute home, I think it's a mistake to think that they were only paying me for the middle part. When I negotiated the position and considered my options, you bet I considered the commute as part of the deal.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Ragged-Trousered_Philanthr...
Your also subsidizing your employers office costs so will they be paying 25% of your property taxes that's the going rate in the UK like when I had to use one room for all my dialysis supplies.
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#108I am more productive but my team as a whole is less productive. Highly individual tasks are great for this whole setup but anything requiring high degrees of coordination seems to have suffered.
I’ve experienced the opposite - as others have noted, making communication just a bit more structured and accessible to others in our org helped get clearer on what/how/why AND incorporate voices often left out because they are not the loudest in the room (or don’t want to speak up in a large public setting). Just on the merits of inclusion, video conferencing has been a big win for me. Yes, there are adjustments and…
Re: SBA executives ‘beyond doubt’ that teleworking employees are more productive
#109Both Yahoo and IBM rolled back their very flexible WFH strategies. I don't think super flexible WFH is a lasting trend, because it's obvious that is doesn't work for most of the people. I personally love WFH and I know a lot of HN do too, but I think human nature is that it probably won't work very well for most companies.
According to who?
Re: SBA executives ‘beyond doubt’ that teleworking employees are more productive
#110Both Yahoo and IBM rolled back their very flexible WFH strategies. I don't think super flexible WFH is a lasting trend, because it's obvious that is doesn't work for most of the people. I personally love WFH and I know a lot of HN do too, but I think human nature is that it probably won't work very well for most companies.
From what I recall of talking to a couple Yahoo employees at the time, they felt that Yahoo had a significant issue with tracking/accountability that was a large driver in the decision to roll those policies back and demand butts in seats.