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Re: Spotify continues to remove Joe Rogan episodes

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Off-topic but still makes me sad: Spotify removed all episodes of Joe Rogan for me by removing podcasts feature from Ukrainian (and not only) users. I’m a paid user btw. Worst part is that since JRE is free for such large part of internet users, it’s impossible to find on torrents unless it’s Elon Musk or similar. Sigh.

you can't use a vpn?

Re: Spotify continues to remove Joe Rogan episodes

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Look on the bright side: people are talking about (and thinking about) topics they might not normally be exposed to. The blame for lack of critical thought skills might fall more upon our parents and educators than Joe Rogan.

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Those sound like topics worthy of debate. Hopefully you take advantage of the opportunity to provide counterpoints to Rogan's "nonsense" when it presents itself.

What's "dangerous" is the intolerance of thought that permeates society right now. We seem to have lost the ability to listen and then respond.

I always thought Joe Rogan might be more of an Art Bell-type personality. Personality, not authority.

Re: Spotify continues to remove Joe Rogan episodes

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>> Rogan, on the other hand, has confirmed that Spotify removed certain shows as a condition of their $100 million agreement with him. “There were a few episodes they didn’t want on their platform, and I was like ‘okay, I don’t care’,” Rogan shared in a recent interview with guest Fahim Anwar. It's part of their deal. Nothing to see here.

$100m? Is there a source for this? I'm amazed.

Re: Spotify continues to remove Joe Rogan episodes

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I don't know why Spotify removes Joe Rogan episodes, but keeps homophobic songs like "Where the hood at" (particularly relevant today) on the platform. Pretty sure that song is far worse than anything said on Rogan.

I guess that song is older than Rogan's podcast episodes, and music isn't usually as serious as a podcast. But still kinda funny they remove Joe Rogan episodes, but allows songs talking about how they won't be friend with gay people.

Still enjoy the song though.

Re: Spotify continues to remove Joe Rogan episodes

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>> Rogan, on the other hand, has confirmed that Spotify removed certain shows as a condition of their $100 million agreement with him. “There were a few episodes they didn’t want on their platform, and I was like ‘okay, I don’t care’,” Rogan shared in a recent interview with guest Fahim Anwar. It's part of their deal. Nothing to see here.

Wait, you left off the next sentence, which is very important: > Whether Rogan understood that several dozen shows were being removed — and may still be getting removed — is also unclear. 42 of his shows have been removed. Even out of 1631 shows, that seems like more than a few. For $100 million he may not care, but for general listeners its a little unnerving that Spotify would be doing this. I'm a grown adult, I ca…

>I'm a grown adult, I can decide what I want to listen to - why are they getting in the way?

Just wait, someone will come around and inform you how deciding what you want to listen to is "whiteness", and you're "white supremacy adjacent" for not supporting the removal of this racist, transphobic hate speech that's violence against BIPOCs and minorities.

Re: Spotify continues to remove Joe Rogan episodes

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Whom does Spotify try to aquisice here? Their users? Their content creators? Or rather their staff? All 3 groups could be possible reasons. But given how little median content creators matter to the organization, users and staff are more likely. But if it were the users, then why buy Joe Rogan's users at all? Especially at a record braking price? This makes me believe it's more likely staff. If that is the case one h…

There's a another group - ephemeral online mobs - People not involved with the content at hand in any way, shape or form contribute to a reactionary admonition and I'm sure businesses just want to avoid the controversy altogether. I don't know about Rogan for instance, but Hulu removed 4 episodes of sunny because of racist caricatures. They certainly were racist but the joke was on the characters using the caricatures. It's a silly example but nuance be damned. I don't think Spotify thinks its censoring anything, they just don't want trouble.

Re: Spotify continues to remove Joe Rogan episodes

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post #51

Off-topic but still makes me sad: Spotify removed all episodes of Joe Rogan for me by removing podcasts feature from Ukrainian (and not only) users. I’m a paid user btw. Worst part is that since JRE is free for such large part of internet users, it’s impossible to find on torrents unless it’s Elon Musk or similar. Sigh.

you can't use a vpn?

I tried, but it just thinks I'm travelling. To get podcasts, you need a US credit card.

Re: Spotify continues to remove Joe Rogan episodes

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>> Rogan, on the other hand, has confirmed that Spotify removed certain shows as a condition of their $100 million agreement with him. “There were a few episodes they didn’t want on their platform, and I was like ‘okay, I don’t care’,” Rogan shared in a recent interview with guest Fahim Anwar. It's part of their deal. Nothing to see here.

Are you being ironic? Of course there's something to see: the latest glacial shift in the accretion of content control by tech platforms.

The Statute of Anne is over 300 years old.

Re: Spotify continues to remove Joe Rogan episodes

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

It doesn’t make me feel any specific way. I’m just referencing information. What do you mean exactly?

> It doesn’t make me feel any specific way. I think it should! It's disconcerting to see the expansion of platform censorship even if the censored party is aware of it, "doesn't care," and was in on the deal. That "it's just business" doesn't make it a neutral development. Spotify gets to decide what ideologies are acceptable for Spotify listeners. This is just one point on the graph. The overall picture is more and…

I think the division line is you see this as ideological, but to the rest of us it's all just business. Publishers will always be free to choose what they place on offer. On my bookshelf I have a copy of the old Linux Device Drivers book from O'Reilly. The book is no longer being published by them. Could it use an update? Yes, severely, the 3rd edition is over a decade old. Why hasn't it gotten one, is it censorship? No, they don't see a return on investment in it.

Spotify only cares about the episodes because of concern about injuring their brand via giving offense, which is as close to an ideology as any large corporation gets, to the point where folks (such as you, in this case) get offended by their clumsy attempts to avoid offense.

Rogan doesn't care because it's always been about money. He doubtless took a haircut on his audience by moving to Spotify, all in order to get money up front for less effort on his part.

Re: Spotify continues to remove Joe Rogan episodes

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's been reported in the past that it is staff. Spotify has 5,000+ employees -- I wouldn't assume for a second that it's the tech workers doing this, I suspect it's probably HR and marketing and so on. It's a big bureaucratic organization. I like to think if I was at Spotify, and I saw people holding the company hostage like this -- threatening to quit (or whatever) if they don't get their way -- that I would stand…

always pay attention who you hire, especially in HR. Woke and activist HR hires woke and activist people, woke and activist people will cause you trouble and can wreck your whole ship. This is true for every industry but especially for media, just look what happened to the once so prestigious news outlets, all taken hostage.

Smart companies have already been filtering them out. See Coinbase, who literally paid them to leave.
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