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All my career rejections

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Re: All my career rejections

#101
I wouldn't do this and keep it around. We have all had rejections, particularly in these highly competitive times but the trick is to forget about them after doing a quick postmortem and learning any lessons. The reason is that psychologically we are wired to focus on the negatives and ruminate endlessly on it leading to self-doubt and a sapping of self-confidence. This is absolutely not good for long-term psychological growth and by extension, your life.

There is also the fact that "recruiting" methods are pseudo-scientific and do not reflect the candidate's ability (outside of very narrow specialized fields) at all. People also tend to make biased snap judgements if you display your failures/faults rather openly. Always project your strengths and don't advertise your faults.

PS: Read The Pocket Oracle and Art of Prudence by Baltasar Gracian trans. by Jeremy Robbins (aka The Art of Worldly Wisdom) for some pragmatic approach to life.

Re: All my career rejections

#102
I find the amount of rejections "most" have to experience before landing a decent job somewhere, to be soul crushing and when life can already be very depressing.

It would be nice if one's ability was easily measured by a history of completions and then graded.

It would also be nice if life wasn't so competitive for surviving and for not ending up homeless. I pity the young generation that doesn't have real family that supports them until they make it somewhere.

Re: All my career rejections

#103
post #9

Interesting to see the differences in people. I've had a long career with very few rejections, but it has a lot to do with the fact that I don't apply to places unless I am really confident I am definitely going to be the best candidate, and that's generally been true. That said, I encourage folks on my team to interview regularly just to know how to value themselves and to see that there are other opportunities, and…

Something is very strange about the Stripe interview, even now.

First time I was referred to Stripe, I got a rejection email an hour later (no interview even occurred).

Second time, I did a coding exercise with no issues, passing all tests, but from the start I could tell the interviewer didn't like me (so I got a rejection).

Re: All my career rejections

#104
post #93

The article/blog post itself seems a bit pointless, minimal content and comes along as more of a humble brag. However I guess it triggers discussion so it's not without value entirely. I have experienced countless rejections. Tens to hundreds every time I switch jobs. After just a few of these, you realize no one knows how to hire and just laugh at the absurdity of this profession.

> The article/blog post itself seems a bit pointless Pointless? No. I'm sure it's reassuring to anyone who doesn't understand the high amount of rejections when looking for a job.

They did not list a high number of rejections though. Reading through it my first thought was “That’s all? What a weird flex!” In my maybe 20 year career I’ve probably been rejected hundreds of times. So much of tech interviewing is spraying and praying, and everyone is so picky. I’ve been rejected more than five times at a few distinct companies! The author listed shockingly few, unless he’s just giving us the highlight reel.

Re: All my career rejections

#106

I wouldn't do this and keep it around. We have all had rejections, particularly in these highly competitive times but the trick is to forget about them after doing a quick postmortem and learning any lessons. The reason is that psychologically we are wired to focus on the negatives and ruminate endlessly on it leading to self-doubt and a sapping of self-confidence. This is absolutely not good for long-term psychologi…

Am I supposed to forget that the vast majority of companies find me unhireable?

Re: All my career rejections

#107

I wouldn't do this and keep it around. We have all had rejections, particularly in these highly competitive times but the trick is to forget about them after doing a quick postmortem and learning any lessons. The reason is that psychologically we are wired to focus on the negatives and ruminate endlessly on it leading to self-doubt and a sapping of self-confidence. This is absolutely not good for long-term psychologi…

Am I supposed to forget that the vast majority of companies find me unhireable?

In a sense, yes. The trick is to analyze the event (i.e. the attempt and the failure) to learn lessons for improvement and not allow it to be a reflection and definition of you. Are you applying for the wrong type of jobs, are you preparing for the interview properly, how do you distinguish yourself from the crowd, are your expectations too high, are you willing to settle for lower pay, are you networking properly etc. etc. are all parameters which you can tune to give yourself an edge. You have to learn to "Hustle" (not meant in a pejorative way).

Re: All my career rejections

#108
I've been accepted to most of the positions I've applied mainly because I avoided FAANG companies for fear of rejection. I was getting regular emails from their recruiters but just kept deleting them.

One day I just decided to reply to the Google recruiter. I stupidly set up the interview ASAP at a time when I was out of the country with no computer or internet. So I went into the interview with zero prep. It was a disaster.

That experience made me once again ignore FAANG recruiters for a while until I was pressured by a friend to apply at Amazon. I crammed hard for that. I thought I aced all the on site interviews with optimal solutions and stupidly told my folks that I likely got the job (bad idea!). I didn't.

Finally took a stab at some tier 2 companies in NYC and was rejected by all. Some were really close others were just bad timing (WeWork during IPO fiasco).

I'm still chugging along working at some company with no name recognition. Yeah it sucks that all my peers work at FAANG and don't understand why I'm not trying to work at a more prominent company. Honestly it worked out better. I have a minimal commute, a decent home in an area with great schools, comp comparable to FAANG, and finally my work has a much greater impact at my company.

Re: All my career rejections

#109
I did something similar last year after getting rejected by FAANGs and few more other tech companies.

- Google rejected 3 times.

- Facebook 2 times.

- Amazon(AWS) 1 times.

- Adobe 1 Times.

- Twitter, Github, stripe and others won't even consider me good enough for an interview.

- Dozens others companies, who do FAANG style interviewing.

I fear rejections, no matter how much I "try" to act normal. I was looking forward to working on some new projects and with talented team members, I never got that opportunity and its heart breaking. I been working on solving leetcode problems. But sometimes can't even solve Easy problems and its just so demotivating. Specially, when I get an automated rejection response without any additional feedback.

I have realized that maybe I'm not a rockstar coder that can come up with high performance code. I'm ok, I can figure shit out! and I think that's fine.

BTW actual feedback from an technical interview,

"I would encourage XXX to use some coding challenge practice websites to become comfortable with producing quick working code segments which would help him feel comfortable and produce code quickly in future interviews."

Unbelievable!

Re: All my career rejections

#110
I've worked with people that were rejected 3-4 times from the same place, before finally getting a job there.

Getting rejected doesn't necessarily mean "No, we will never want you around here. Do not apply" though it might feel that way.

Sometimes there are just too many (great) applicants to choose from. But who knows, that pick could be you.

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