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Re: GitHub, fuck your name change

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Post by throwaheyy » Wed, Mar 17, 2021, 8:57 AM UTC

enriquto wrote: post #77

I'm a bit late to the game, but I don't understand what this fuss is all about, from a technical point of view. I just created a git repo this morning and the default branch was named "master" (using the git command line). Then I pushed it to github to make it visible, as I have done several times before. The command line instructions at the "new repository" interface on github suggest changing the branch name to mai…

Sure, it’s fine and easy if you’re starting a project today. But if you have any build or deployment automation that interacts with git repos for existing projects it will be broken by the change.

Re: GitHub, fuck your name change

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Post by jholman » Wed, Mar 17, 2021, 8:57 AM UTC

dijit wrote: post #15

it should be noted that git (the binary) is also in the process of deprecating `master`. This is the message I get on my machine when running git init: hint: Using 'master' as the name for the initial branch. This default branch name hint: is subject to change. To configure the initial branch name to use in all hint: of your new repositories, which will suppress this warning, call: hint: hint: git config --global ini…

Why do you think this means that git is deprecating master?

Similarly, GitHub claims that git is making similar changes, and links to a "Statement" that actually says the opposite, and a code change that also does not include anything like making that change (both are from June 2020). Since GitHub's claim is obviously in error, I wonder if it's malice or incompetence.

Is there some other evidence that git is going to deprecate master?

Re: GitHub, fuck your name change

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Post by jansan » Wed, Mar 17, 2021, 8:57 AM UTC

sunaurus wrote: post #4

I feel like this topic has been discussed a lot already, but I think it's important to keep pushing back against useless wasted man-hours like this effort is. I live in a country that was almost entirely enslaved by foreigners for ~700 years. I've discussed this rename with dozens of engineers in my country. Without exception, every single one of them thinks it's completely ridiculous. We need to keep voicing these t…

GitHubs decision is a form of cultural imperialism. That's what it really is. Only because the US want's to somehow deal with a dark part of it's history, the rest of the world should not be foreced to adapt their views.

Re: GitHub, fuck your name change

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Post by iamflimflam1 » Wed, Mar 17, 2021, 8:57 AM UTC

This topic has been done to death. If you're offended by the name change from master to main then you really need to be asking yourself why you're so upset about it.

And you need to be answering that question honestly.

Re: GitHub, fuck your name change

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Post by INTPenis » Wed, Mar 17, 2021, 8:58 AM UTC

jamil7 wrote: post #31

RawaHorse wrote: post #18

Maybe it's just me but, outside of tech contexts, I associate "master" and "slave" much more with bdsm than I do with actual slave ownership.

Maybe we can start using dom/sub instead of master/slave in tech.

git config --global init.defaultBranch dom

Re: GitHub, fuck your name change

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Post by terse_malvolio » Wed, Mar 17, 2021, 8:58 AM UTC

3saryHg6LP2e wrote: post #54

Christ, I agree with this article so much it hurts. I am convinced future people will find this whole saga quite an interesting anecdote of how, for a period of time, _appearing_ to be "anti-racist" was far more important than doing anything positive. As an aside I find it highly amusing watching the proponents of such changes eat themselves (see Twitch: womxn debacle).

It also mislabels racism as something that can be fixed by modulating language, as if it was a character flaw an not a human flaw .

An optical illusion isn't fixed just because you cover it from view with a piece of tape.

Re: GitHub, fuck your name change

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Post by Number157 » Wed, Mar 17, 2021, 8:58 AM UTC

He had a masters degree. We were impressed by her mastery of the subject. They were master archers. The zen master suggested they should meditate.

Etc etc etc...

I realize the word can be used in a negative context but that's the case with any word and in none of the cases is it the word itself that is the problem, but peoples actions.

I don't care if we call master 'main' or whatever. They both work. The discussion around the name change does annoy me. This isn't D-day, it's a name change for the sake of PR.

Re: GitHub, fuck your name change

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Post by JimDabell » Wed, Mar 17, 2021, 8:58 AM UTC

input_sh wrote: post #35

ecmascript wrote: post #5

This is a topic I feel cannot be openly discussed on HN (and basically everywhere else), sadly. I switched from Github to Gitlab after this change. Political correctness is a great way to know that a company has the completely wrong focus and will be unable to innovate and create good products.

But GitLab also implemented this change? Well, they gave admins the option to change the default branch name to whatever they like, and they've announced they're changing from master to main by default in the next two months or so: https://about.gitlab.com/blog/2021/03/10/new-git-default-bra... You may as well stop using Git completely then, since Git itself uses main as recommended.

> Git itself uses main as recommended

The default branch name in Git, as of v2.31 (released two days ago), is master.

Re: GitHub, fuck your name change

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Post by weddpros » Wed, Mar 17, 2021, 8:58 AM UTC

thecopy wrote: post #30

sunaurus wrote: post #4

I feel like this topic has been discussed a lot already, but I think it's important to keep pushing back against useless wasted man-hours like this effort is. I live in a country that was almost entirely enslaved by foreigners for ~700 years. I've discussed this rename with dozens of engineers in my country. Without exception, every single one of them thinks it's completely ridiculous. We need to keep voicing these t…

>We need to keep voicing these thoughts so that decision-makers in large companies have a chance to hear us and realize that they should focus on more useful issues instead. I suppose they are not doing it for your feeling's sake. They are doing it to avoid being a target of a woke mob feigning offense for their own ideological gain in the on-going identity culture war which is happening in the west.

When the woke mob hinders the very minority it's supposed to care about, it starts a vicious circle and nothing changes for the best

Re: GitHub, fuck your name change

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Post by dsincl12 » Wed, Mar 17, 2021, 8:58 AM UTC

vmception wrote: post #47

I’m a black American and agree with everything that this person in London wrote. It is also a common criticism of the American “left”, and is entirely accurate. For everyone perplexed about black Americans and other people of color walking away from the left, its because you/they don't see us as equals that can be bothered by the exact same things that other Americans can be bothered by: being told what to think, wat…

As a white dude, I feel really ashamed for this even though I'm not involved in this at all. Sorry man, you deserve a better world.