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Re: Amazon rainforest plots sold via Facebook Marketplace ads

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Post by Ansil849 »

MattGaiser wrote: post #18
Ansil849 wrote: post #13

> Facebook said it was "ready to work with local authorities", but indicated it would not take independent action of its own to halt the trade. Huh? If the ads were for firearms or child slaves, would Facebook's response also be that it was ready to work with local authorities, but would not take independent action? So how can Facebook take this kind of flippant approach to this, but not on other items? The, not even…

Selling children and guns (at least in most parts of the world) is just outright prohibited. Selling land isn't. You don't need to figure out whether it is an illegal or legal child sale as all child selling is illegal. Selling land in itself is not illegal.

> Selling children and guns (at least in most parts of the world) is just outright prohibited. Selling land isn't.

Do you have a reference for this? Especially guns?

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Post by raister »

childintime wrote: post #97
raister wrote: post #93

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Well, those are 'tricky' regions. I don't believe that in Rondônia they will say: "what, this tree belongs to Bolívia! don't take it down, please!". It's like a mess in the that 'border'. When Brazil stops then, and there are no more trees to take down in its side, then it will stop being a Brazilian problem? Maybe we should act to salvage what remains instead of discussing who's fault it is. Well, as we are discussi…

> Well, those are 'tricky' regions. I don't believe that in Rondônia they will say: "what, this tree belongs to Bolívia! don't take it down, please!". Agree. All the more striking that it does obey borders. > When [Brazil stops then, and] there are no more trees to take down in its side, then it will stop being a Brazilian problem? So you think it is a problem of the world. Yet you as a brazilian feel dependent on th…

> All the more striking that it does obey borders.

And please, don't believe everything Google feeds you...

Re: Amazon rainforest plots sold via Facebook Marketplace ads

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Post by 1996 »

ClumsyPilot wrote: post #10
kar5pt wrote: post #8

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How would blockchain land claims be enforced without a state backing them?

Presumably if someone is squatting your blockchain -land you call crypto police and they...?

You don't call anyone. You just publish their picture, name, phone number, and address.

If they have done nothing wrong acquiring plots of jungle, they certainly have nothing to fear!!

On the other hand, if the blockchain can show conclusively some ex-post reassignment of property rights, and whose corrupt official were responsible, maybe some heads will roll (and I mean that quite literally in South America!)

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Post by csomar »

MertsA wrote: post #81
csomar wrote: post #62

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These lands are usually owned by "agreement" within the "gangs" that are holding or controlling them. It happens a lot where I live until the government cracks down and everyone loses "his" land. The reality is that they are doing temporary activity on the land (like raising cattle) and so if the government cracked down, they'll just take their cows and move on to the next land. The purchase price is too low and that…

At the very least one of the transactions from the article was just some random middle class guy selling land he's never owned, not some organised criminals demanding protection money.

I put "gang" because these are usually not armed gangs but rather regular dudes who have "claims" to these lands. There is a bit of power play here, otherwise the buyer will just go ahead and claim the lot.

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Post by rsj_hn »

aaron695 wrote: post #80
rsj_hn wrote: post #44

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What "illegal comments" are you referring to?

Comparing it to human slavery and other illegal things and saying Facebook would remove that so why not this. In reality a lot of Brazil runs off selling land not based on documentation, which is technically illegal, but it's also peoples entire lives, the shack they built on a hill is theirs and for Facebook to remove the right to sell that is not a small thing. "Brazil slum dwellers shun home ownership, fearing gen…

I understand there are comments you disagree with, but why do you think they are illegal?

Re: Amazon rainforest plots sold via Facebook Marketplace ads

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Post by aaron695 »

rsj_hn wrote: post #105
aaron695 wrote: post #80

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Comparing it to human slavery and other illegal things and saying Facebook would remove that so why not this. In reality a lot of Brazil runs off selling land not based on documentation, which is technically illegal, but it's also peoples entire lives, the shack they built on a hill is theirs and for Facebook to remove the right to sell that is not a small thing. "Brazil slum dwellers shun home ownership, fearing gen…

I understand there are comments you disagree with, but why do you think they are illegal?

People who are 'commenting' buying and selling this land is 'illegal' are not understanding the full story. That's all I'm referring to.
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