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Re: LinkedIn is building a gig marketplace

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Post by cpach »

mdocherty wrote: post #84
f8 wrote: post #69

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I work full-time and get monitored like this. Ever hear of Hubstaff? It's an unfortunate reality for some remote workers and I don't agree with it but it happens. There can be an inherent distrust from employers when they're unable to see you physically working. It's more of an assurance thing, but I've gotten used to working exclusively in VM's.

Where do you work?

There are probably lots of companies like this. Fortunately there are also lots of other companies who trust their coworkers!

Re: LinkedIn is building a gig marketplace

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Post by ecmascript »

LinkedIn is really a disgusting place imo. The only people who are active on LinkedIn is people that sells bullshit and recruiters who spam everyone.

I have no trust in linkedin and I am sure this new feature will be as low quality as usual, on par with the low quality stuff on fiverr and upwork.

Re: LinkedIn is building a gig marketplace

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Post by patrickk »

CryptoPunk wrote: post #28

Hopefully cryptocurrency payments is an option. ZK-Rollups now enable Visa scale throughput for payments on Ethereum so crypto is primed for widespread usage. Linkedin could stick with USDC, which is an FDIC insured USD-backed ERC20 token, to avoid the volatility associated with crypto-assets, while providing a more seamless globally accessible alternative to the legacy banking/payments system. EDIT: privacy is still…

I've hired someone for a short term, low-price contracting gig recently (not on the marketplaces mentioned here) who specifically requested to be paid in cryptocurrency if possible and even offered a discount for that. The reason was that after converting USD into his local currency he would get robbed by Paypal fees.

So I support efforts to enable faster, seamless global commerce which will help gig workers to get more gigs and avoid paying middlemen ridiculous fees.

Those downvoting you probably don't have experience with gig workers from poorer parts of the world, where middlemen like Paypal are a barrier to commerce.

Re: LinkedIn is building a gig marketplace

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Post by algo_trader »

josephjrobison wrote: post #16
chovybizzass wrote: post #2

excellent. fiverr is nothing but trash and upwork only has tops 25/hour jobs in usa. need a legit gig site.

Fiverr - best turnaround times and least hassle, you can see all the gigs, pricing, and expertise up front. But have to do hard filtering. Upwork - Biggest range. Can get a lot of crap, but the volume means a few diamonds. Better for open ended or larger engagements than Fiverr. Individual freelancers - great if you find the right one that delivers. The downside, is without the middleman platform, there's more risk t…

> Fiverr - best turnaround times and least hassle, you can see all the gigs, pricing, and expertise up front. But have to do hard filtering.

I certainly get a "fast and simple" vibe from the app. But what is the experience in practice? Do you get (semi)functional work or just a 3rd country bot trying to upsale u ?

I agree you need to in a "good PM" mode for these services

Re: LinkedIn is building a gig marketplace

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Post by EugeneOZ »

input_sh wrote: post #58
seanwilson wrote: post #31

https://support.upwork.com/hc/en-us/articles/211064098-Log-T... > It’s easy to bill your time using the Upwork desktop app. ... > When you have logging turned on, the app takes random screen captures six times per hour—once per 10-minute billing segment. Anything visible on your screen will display in your Work Diary, but you have the option, in Settings, to choose whether the screen captures your entire desktop or o…

Precisely why I only negotiated fixed price projects.

And as a freelancer, I will never take fixed-price contracts. Find someone else for this hell.

Re: LinkedIn is building a gig marketplace

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Post by galaxyLogic »

I think the problem with monitoring workers' screens is you are trying to ensure that they are "working". Instead the client should have managers who are trying to figure out WHAT the workers are working on. To understand whether useful work is being done you need to understand the structure of the application, and then understand what kind of progress is made in terms of that.

Manage the development of the product, not workers' time.

Re: LinkedIn is building a gig marketplace

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Post by DeusExMachina »

seanwilson wrote: post #31

https://support.upwork.com/hc/en-us/articles/211064098-Log-T... > It’s easy to bill your time using the Upwork desktop app. ... > When you have logging turned on, the app takes random screen captures six times per hour—once per 10-minute billing segment. Anything visible on your screen will display in your Work Diary, but you have the option, in Settings, to choose whether the screen captures your entire desktop or o…

FWIW, I have been hiring freelancers on UpWork for some years and I never looked at those work diaries even once. I only check the output of each person.

Re: LinkedIn is building a gig marketplace

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Post by hnarn »

bawolff wrote: post #67
ArtTimeInvestor wrote: post #5

It will be interesting to see a third public company building a work marketplace. Upwork and Fiverr are already a godsend when you build a startup. But they still leave a lot to be desired. From a buyers perspective, Upwork feels more solid than Fiverr. In terms of freelancers and system functionality. One thing that is annoying on both platforms is that they send you an invoice after every gig. The first one that wi…

> For example developers, who are writing clean code and refactor their stuff before they deliver If you want that you probably shouldn't be outsourcing to freelancers in general. People aren't going to make clean code if they know they are never going to see it again and arent being paid for how clean it is.

> arent being paid for how clean it is

To be fair, a lot of full-time developers in big companies also do not get paid for how clean the code is, because no one cares.

I'd probably lean more towards personal character deciding this than just looking at people behaving only and always as incentives tell them to in any situation. Some people take pride in their code and some don't.

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