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Re: K-9 Mail is looking for funding

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Post by edoceo »

ComputerGuru wrote: post #89
znpy wrote: post #54

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jesus christ gmail is absolutely unusable both on the desktop and on mobile. the only way to make it usable again is to switch to the plain html mode, that uses no javascript, loads very fast, and reminds me a lot of the first gmail ui, back from ~15 years go.

Imagine if they just used an SSE or mixed-replace to update the plain html version in real-time when messages are received without JS. But we can’t have that (Google even unilaterally disabled mixed-replace in blink/Chrome/Chromium (except for continuing to support MJPEG) many, many years ago so no one else can do that either).

What's a mixed-replace update?

Re: K-9 Mail is looking for funding

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Post by nsriv »

znpy wrote: post #54
Arkanosis wrote: post #19

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> the best app if you want to use a custom SMTP/IMAP server instead of using a solution like hotmail/google/etc IMHO, it's also the best if you're using Gmail: Google has been breaking its UIs for years (both on the app and on the web), especially for people like me who try to use proper quoting and signatures, or to send plain text emails. Apart from some glitches with reflow, K-9 does that very well even with Googl…

jesus christ gmail is absolutely unusable both on the desktop and on mobile. the only way to make it usable again is to switch to the plain html mode, that uses no javascript, loads very fast, and reminds me a lot of the first gmail ui, back from ~15 years go.

I've really enjoyed using the Simplify Gmail extension when I use Gmail on desktop. Just launched a new v2 that's very nice.

https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/simplify-gmail/pbm...

Re: K-9 Mail is looking for funding

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Post by stonesweep »

rkagerer wrote: post #87
stonesweep wrote: post #67

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I have licenses for both Nine and AquaMail with the same purpose (operates with work-required MFA via O365+adfs+RSASecureID token) and would highly encourage you to look at AquaMail. If you thought Nine was configurable, hold on to your hat - AquaMail is all that and more, I highly prefer AquaMail to Nine for business email.

I've been using Nine for ages and it's great*. How well does AquaMail work with Exchange / ActiveSync? (*My only real complaint about Nine is if I try to import more than a few months worth of email history into the local cache it slows to a crawl and starts breaking. I'd pay for an app that locally indexes a few tens of GB of email history and makes it instantly searchable.)

I'm afraid I've never used it with direct Activesync; my Exchange connection has always been EWS/OWA-based (whatever they call the web endpoint now in O365 hosted Exchange).

Re: K-9 Mail is looking for funding

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Post by tubularhells »

stonesweep wrote: post #59

PSA: if you've not used it in awhile, use the betas via F-Droid: https://f-droid.org/en/packages/com.fsck.k9/ You have to click "Versions" from the F-Droid app and specifically opt-in (and upgrade) the betas, F-Droid will default to installing the older stable version. The betas are almost night (mode heh) and day apart, the UI and operations have almost a complete overhaul from the old days and it looks (and works)…

Oh wow the beta looks nice. I'll test it and donate if it's something I'll change over to. Currently I use FairEmail, a Dutch opensource project done buy a local guy. It's good but it has some nuances and way too much granularity for my taste.

Re: K-9 Mail is looking for funding

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Post by elevation »

I use K9 for a small LLC, and would like to support the developer. My CPA advises that anonymous[1]/charitable contributions are not tax deductible business expenses. However, if the recipient publicly acknowledges your sponsorship, it's considered an "advertising" expense.

To accept contributions from small corporations using your app, consider offering a low-friction non-charitable service such as a one-year placement on a "sponsors" page of your website, like (the Python Software Foundation does this for contributions of any amount. [0])

Another option could be an annual per-user license (for organizations large enough that the person with a credit card wanting to support you cannot also influence the advertising budget.)

If you're a solo developer, don't forget small businesses when considering how to raise funding!

[0]: https://www.python.org/psf/donations/ [1]: https://liberapay.com/about/

Re: K-9 Mail is looking for funding

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Post by rlpb »

hvdijk wrote: post #43
Black101 wrote: post #27

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I like FairEmail too... it also supports PGP. https://f-droid.org/en/packages/eu.faircode.email/

That one supposedly has source code available under GPL3 but despite GPL3 clause 9, which says "You are not required to accept this License in order to receive or run a copy of the Program", presents the GPL3 as an EULA and refuses to run unless the user clicks "I agree".

"I agree" is presumably shorthand for "I agree to the linked license", or in other words "I agree to the GPL3", or to expand that, "I agree that I am not required to accept this License in order to receive or run a copy of the Program". Since that's part of the GPL3 text.

So I wouldn't worry about it.

Re: K-9 Mail is looking for funding

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Post by distances »

richardwhiuk wrote: post #82
distances wrote: post #31

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No it doesn't. It's about targetSdk, not minSdk.

Sorry, yes, I mean targetSdk not minSdk - though in practice they are linked.

No, they aren't linked. Maybe you are mixing it with compileSdk, that and targetSdk are usually linked but minSdk is almost always considerably behind.

Re: K-9 Mail is looking for funding

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Post by rlpb »

richardwhiuk wrote: post #84
cketti wrote: post #35

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> I definitely struggle to understand why IMAP IDLE is critical for a release. The functionality is present in the latest stable version, but needs to be reimplemented in the new version. As a user I would be upset if the app was updated and that feature taken away, even if it was only temporary.

Which leads to the question about why it was removed...

Something to do with issues with newer Android no longer permitting the background connection to remain open for battery saving purposes, I think?

Re: K-9 Mail is looking for funding

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Post by tubularhells »

jdboyd wrote: post #45
normaler wrote: post #44

I really love K9 Mail. I startend donating 5€ per month now. What I love the most is how easy it is to sort E-Mail and to actually use existing Folderstructures. I almost dont need a desktop client anymore to handle my mail.

I sometimes wish k9mail was available on the desktop.

Yeah, Thunderbird is a mess. I wish we had something better.

Re: K-9 Mail is looking for funding

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Post by antibuddy »

dr_hooo wrote: post #95
stonesweep wrote: post #59

PSA: if you've not used it in awhile, use the betas via F-Droid: https://f-droid.org/en/packages/com.fsck.k9/ You have to click "Versions" from the F-Droid app and specifically opt-in (and upgrade) the betas, F-Droid will default to installing the older stable version. The betas are almost night (mode heh) and day apart, the UI and operations have almost a complete overhaul from the old days and it looks (and works)…

Thanks for the pointer - much improved indeed! I was getting the impression that development had ceased and never knew that F-Droid doesn't always install the latest available version.

It's a bit annoying that you can't make F-Droid auto-update to latest when the "suggested" is not the latest.

The version is also split on GitHub[1] and I can only guess why.

[1]: https://github.com/k9mail/k-9

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