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Re: Twitter acquires Revue

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Post by sneak »

cocktailpeanuts wrote: post #87
CivBase wrote: post #79

"Revue by Twitter" It's interesting that the tech giants keep tagging their names onto the brands they acquire. Does that really help? I know that the tech crowd exists in a bubble and that the hatred for the tech giants on HN doesn't really reflect the feelings of the general public... but even outside the tech sphere, are there really many people who like Twitter as a company? Most people just seem to tolerate the…

Interesting that they don't do "GitHub by Microsoft", or "NPM by Microsoft". Maybe there's some insight in there somewhere...

Microsoft wants to keep their corporate stink off of those brands as to not taint their market dominance and continued growth. It appears to be working.

They're slowly working other, less-Microsoft-branded proprietary stuff into them, like Azure and VSCode.

GitHub and NPM however remain without even a mention of their ownership and decisionmaking entity.

Some of the marketing for these things they've even taken to posting on unaffiliated domains, like we saw on HN yesterday:

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25903358

They're trying really hard to not remind people that the same people who put ads in your start menu also own and control your favorite free code host, too.

Call it Microsoft GitHub whenever you can.

Re: Twitter acquires Revue

#102

Post by enos_feedler »

cocktailpeanuts wrote: post #87
CivBase wrote: post #79

"Revue by Twitter" It's interesting that the tech giants keep tagging their names onto the brands they acquire. Does that really help? I know that the tech crowd exists in a bubble and that the hatred for the tech giants on HN doesn't really reflect the feelings of the general public... but even outside the tech sphere, are there really many people who like Twitter as a company? Most people just seem to tolerate the…

Interesting that they don't do "GitHub by Microsoft", or "NPM by Microsoft". Maybe there's some insight in there somewhere...

Everyone knows github. Adding microsoft to the name doesnt get more sign ups. Npm doesnt even get sign ups this way. I have no idea what Revue is. Adding Twitter to the name gives it instant credibility.

Re: Twitter acquires Revue

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Post by rozab »

rightbyte wrote: post #27
siruva07 wrote: post #7

Excellent acquisition. Twitter will definitely compete and take marketshare from Substack with lower fees from 20% to 5%. I hope this acquisition is actually a stepping stone for Twitter to become a much better service. Twitter could absolutely become a paid service and move away from ads as its business model. No political ads to worry about. No interference with the product experience. And believe it or not, if I u…

I am a bit cynical about that Spyware-aaS companies like FB would stop spying just becouse you paid them. I mean I bought a Samsung TV for 1000USD and still it tries to show adds and spy. The temptation to increase margins is high no matter what. I am not that up to date with Twitter. Are they in the same class as FB and Google?

Correct. I don't understand why people suggest direct revenue streams would help in this regard. Have you seen Facebook's profit margins? They don't need to spy on people.

Re: Twitter acquires Revue

#104

Post by mcintyre1994 »

orliesaurus wrote: post #78

Will twitter penalize substack users like it had penalized sharing of instagram pictures by removing the preview embedded in tweets?

I listened to a podcast that included this story, it was a Facebook decision. Mark phoned and gave them a few hours heads up that 'Instagram' had decided not to allow the embeds any more. They actually got it delayed 24 hours or something like that to avoid breaking Twitter.

Re: Twitter acquires Revue

#105

Post by TechBro8615 »

pr0zac wrote: post #83
orliesaurus wrote: post #78

Will twitter penalize substack users like it had penalized sharing of instagram pictures by removing the preview embedded in tweets?

Instagram pictures don't show up on Twitter because Facebook blocked it. They did that in response to Twitter blocking Instagram from finding contacts via Twitter. Its FAANG in-fighting from like 8 years ago that I'm still kind of surprised hasn't been sorted out by now.

More like NATFAG in-fighting in this case

Re: Twitter acquires Revue

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Post by enos_feedler »

whomst wrote: post #81
CivBase wrote: post #79

"Revue by Twitter" It's interesting that the tech giants keep tagging their names onto the brands they acquire. Does that really help? I know that the tech crowd exists in a bubble and that the hatred for the tech giants on HN doesn't really reflect the feelings of the general public... but even outside the tech sphere, are there really many people who like Twitter as a company? Most people just seem to tolerate the…

I’ve heard that it might be for anti trust reasons (but with putting Facebook on all of its properties). Properly establishing who owns what up front makes the average user more aware of the consolidation of platforms

If Revue were a big company perhaps. In this case I think its just to give Revue more value through the brand association.

Re: Twitter acquires Revue

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Post by another_sock »

This is a good idea with the caveat that twitter gets more sane banning/suspension policies. For any interesting or non-traditional writers/thinkers, the process of building up a platform and having it taken away from you by some tech overlord is a very common experience. Most people with any audience who say anything of value are very wary of anything associated with twitter, so there needs to be some administrative and policy changes before anybody of value uses this.

Re: Twitter acquires Revue

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Post by hderms »

siruva07 wrote: post #7

Excellent acquisition. Twitter will definitely compete and take marketshare from Substack with lower fees from 20% to 5%. I hope this acquisition is actually a stepping stone for Twitter to become a much better service. Twitter could absolutely become a paid service and move away from ads as its business model. No political ads to worry about. No interference with the product experience. And believe it or not, if I u…

Presumably none of these big players want to charge money for a pro service because it would be difficult to walk back on w.r.t ad revenue. The ad purchasers would probably take issue with it, especially given that they're explicitly valuing their user base at presumably less than they're charging for advertising access to them.

Not to say it couldn't work, but I'm guessing the reason it hasn't been tried is at least partially do to there being no going back

Re: Twitter acquires Revue

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Post by jsjsbdkj »

TechBro8615 wrote: post #105
pr0zac wrote: post #83

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Instagram pictures don't show up on Twitter because Facebook blocked it. They did that in response to Twitter blocking Instagram from finding contacts via Twitter. Its FAANG in-fighting from like 8 years ago that I'm still kind of surprised hasn't been sorted out by now.

More like NATFAG in-fighting in this case

wow that's a terrible acronym.
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