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The M1 MacBook Air is the best computer I've ever owned

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Re: The M1 MacBook Air is the best computer I've ever owned

#101

In my experience, the latest computer I buy is always "the best computer I've ever owned". They get better every year, why is this still surprising?

The recent MacBook Pro's are IMO not superior to the experience of using the first Retina MBP's. I'd rather have that model of MBP's, only with performance increases and without the Touch Bar.

Re: The M1 MacBook Air is the best computer I've ever owned

#102

In my experience, the latest computer I buy is always "the best computer I've ever owned". They get better every year, why is this still surprising?

This is the predictable HN response I envisioned after reading the title.

You'd start to have a point if they were only talking about raw performance. But they aren't.

Also, raw performance alone doesn't make things better. My Windows PC almost has the best parts on the market yet things don't always feel faster. The UI even feels slower than my previous one. It's my latest PC, but it's not the best computer I've owned.

Re: The M1 MacBook Air is the best computer I've ever owned

#104

New computer is better than old computer. Shocking. The M1 is a good chip. It is great that we have ARM cores that can go toe-to-toe with Zen 3. It is hardly a revolution and it would not be trivial to scale it to a workstation or server design. It is telling to see someone acting like the competition is still Intel. Intel has been playing catchup since Q1 of 2017. Their server parts in particular are woefully outdat…

Toe to toe? It starches every Ryzen chip in single core performance, and every mobile Ryzen under 45 watts TDP in multicore despite only having 4 performance cores and 15 Watts TDP.

You are correct only about Ryzens based on the old Zen 2.

Any new Ryzen 5xxx based on Zen 3 is faster in single-thread than the best Apple M1.

In general-purpose benchmarks, like Geekbench 5, the maximum Apple M1 score is 1752, while Ryzen 5xxx score between 1800 and 1876.

In computational benchmarks, where the IPC is limited by some execution resources reaching 100% utilization, so the higher average IPC of Apple M1 does matter much less, Apple M1 is even slower compared to Ryzens. For example Ryzen 7 5800X is 22% faster than Apple M1 in gmpbench (the benchmark was run for both CPUs after tuning specific to Apple M1 and tuning specific to Zen 3 were added to libgmp, so it is a comparison of apples with apples).

Re: The M1 MacBook Air is the best computer I've ever owned

#105

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Generally this is surprising because the user bought the "Air" model instead of his usual "pro" model which is much more expensive. The impressive part here is that the air outperforms last years pro (according to the author) which is 3x the price.

this is what people meant prior to the m1 coming out with "macs are a horrible deal" they used to be priced at roughly 3x markup compared to the market. they finally fixed their co-dependency with intel and suddenly wow the price gouging goes out the door because gasp the macbook air could have always been the pro it was just never possible with using old chips. ANYTHING using arm absolutely FLIES open your eyes peop…

I have tried arm computers such as raspberry pi and they are slow. The linux arm projects seem to target just the cheapest price, m1 seems more like bang for buck. I hope linux hardware develops towards that.

Re: The M1 MacBook Air is the best computer I've ever owned

#106

In my experience, the latest computer I buy is always "the best computer I've ever owned". They get better every year, why is this still surprising?

> They get better every year

For us Apple users, this stopped being true about 4 years back.

Re: The M1 MacBook Air is the best computer I've ever owned

#107

Yeah, right - if you choose to ignore the following: You can't upgrade the RAM, you can't upgrade the SSD, it doesn't have replaceable battery and you are forced to run a crippled OS on it (macOS Big Sur deliberately cripples VPN and firewall on it so that select Apple softwares can bypass them, allowing Apple better access and control over your data and softwares). (And if you don't care about any of the above, then…

I haven't wanted to upgrade the RAM in a laptop in at least half a decade now.

What about paying the OEM markup for the RAM they install? god knows if I paid Lenovo for maxing out the RAM specs instead of just pay it from newegg at the like I'd be in the poor house!

Re: The M1 MacBook Air is the best computer I've ever owned

#108
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I think we really need a break from people submitting more M1 Mac unboxing articles, unless there's significant original technical content. This is turning into fanboyism.

They probably have a quota to fill. Apple spending an ocean of cash on pushing this project.

Re: The M1 MacBook Air is the best computer I've ever owned

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

OP: "In-N-Out is my favorite fast food restaurant." You: "No, you're wrong."

Even if the intended meaning is that it does (in the title) say "best" not favourite, which is ultimately, if not exactly, a reasonably quantitative question.

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Re: The M1 MacBook Air is the best computer I've ever owned

#110

New computer is better than old computer. Shocking. The M1 is a good chip. It is great that we have ARM cores that can go toe-to-toe with Zen 3. It is hardly a revolution and it would not be trivial to scale it to a workstation or server design. It is telling to see someone acting like the competition is still Intel. Intel has been playing catchup since Q1 of 2017. Their server parts in particular are woefully outdat…

Toe to toe? It starches every Ryzen chip in single core performance, and every mobile Ryzen under 45 watts TDP in multicore despite only having 4 performance cores and 15 Watts TDP.

What does "starches" mean?
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