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Skynet – Build a Free Internet

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Re: Skynet – Build a Free Internet

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Post by dboreham »

cyphermoon wrote: post #90
killerstorm wrote: post #82

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sorry, but this is not decentralized at all, as you are at mercy of siasky.net serving you the right code. If siasky.net is compromised it will serve you code which steals the account. This is strictly inferior to normal web, as you need to trust both the app developer and the portal code is served from. Having multiple mirrors is NOT decentralization. My criteria for "decentralized web" candidates are: * credentials…

The only missing piece is a browser plugin or a dedicated browser that verifies that each piece of content you are served corresponds to the hash you are requesting. This is on the global roadmap, as well as automatic portal switching. The philosophy of the project is absolutely in line with your thinking.

Perhaps like the IPFS browser plugin?

Re: Skynet – Build a Free Internet

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Post by tgtweak »

andrew_ wrote: post #92
twostorytower wrote: post #11

Disclosure: I mined Siacoin for years and have hundreds of thousands of tokens. Sia is an amazing project with a team who is extremely talented and passionate, but Skynet is the future. They've built a fully decentralized CDN and it's incredible. Ten years from now, I can see it being the norm for startups and maybe even larger companies to use decentralized CDN's like this. I hope Coinbase adds Siacoin for trading s…

Is it still profitable to mine Siacoin locally?

No, they've made purpose-built silicon for sia mining and it is no longer viable to mine on general purpose compute. As far as storage mining - it may be. last check (november) filecoin was the most profitable to host your disk space for but required a rediculous amount of compute as well as disk space (latest gen GPUs, 128G ram, near-100% uptime).

Re: Skynet – Build a Free Internet

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Post by Esiason »

troquerre wrote: post #95

We’ve been using Skynet for all our decentralized web projects at Namebase.io ever since they added Handshake naming support[1] — it’s been fantastic. It now takes us days to build things that previously took our intern a month to do. With censorship entering the zeitgeist nowadays I wouldn’t be surprised if the next big decentralized social network is build on Skynet. [1] https://siasky.net/docs/#handshake

Be warned of the large post mine coming to SiaCoin soon (the crypto-currency that powers Skynet). Massive inflation is coming to SiaCoin because of this to pay off Skynet Labs as they exit development on the Sia core protocol. David (aka Taek), the original creator, is leaving the Sia project to become a third party dev (working for the new Skynet Labs VC funded company) and will no longer be working on making the Sia core protocol actually work better. Lots of outstanding issues in the Sia core protocol still and with Sia losing their founding dev it raises concerns if the Sia protocol will ever be able to mature. Read more at https://SiaSetup.info (and more specifically https://siasetup.info/concerns-about-sia-and-skynet)

Re: Skynet – Build a Free Internet

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Post by miki123211 »

What's the difference between Sia and Skynet? This is the point that confuses me most.

I thought Sia is the low-level layer and Skynet is the high-level layer, but one of the comments says that Sia encrypts data and Skynet doesn't, so that makes no sense.

Too many names that aren't clearly explained in a very obvious place is a plague that many otherwise cool projects suffer from.

Re: Skynet – Build a Free Internet

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Post by CodeGlitch »

troquerre wrote: post #95

We’ve been using Skynet for all our decentralized web projects at Namebase.io ever since they added Handshake naming support[1] — it’s been fantastic. It now takes us days to build things that previously took our intern a month to do. With censorship entering the zeitgeist nowadays I wouldn’t be surprised if the next big decentralized social network is build on Skynet. [1] https://siasky.net/docs/#handshake

> decentralized social network is build on Skynet

AKA email.

If Trump has been kicked off Twitter, there's nothing stopping him from providing an email newsletter where people can sign-up and recieve his crazy ramblings.

Seriously wondering why people don't do this. Perhaps I shouldn't be giving Trump any ideas?

Re: Skynet – Build a Free Internet

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Post by api »

Look it’s Sia, the only non-vaporware ICO that quietly shipped a mostly working and usable version of what Filecoin raised 100X more to so far fail to ship (in a usable form).

Re: Skynet – Build a Free Internet

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Post by pbk1 »

CodeGlitch wrote: post #105
troquerre wrote: post #95

We’ve been using Skynet for all our decentralized web projects at Namebase.io ever since they added Handshake naming support[1] — it’s been fantastic. It now takes us days to build things that previously took our intern a month to do. With censorship entering the zeitgeist nowadays I wouldn’t be surprised if the next big decentralized social network is build on Skynet. [1] https://siasky.net/docs/#handshake

> decentralized social network is build on Skynet AKA email. If Trump has been kicked off Twitter, there's nothing stopping him from providing an email newsletter where people can sign-up and recieve his crazy ramblings. Seriously wondering why people don't do this. Perhaps I shouldn't be giving Trump any ideas?

Don't worry, his newsletter providers are deplatforming him too.[0]

[0] https://disrn.com/news/email-provider-suspends-trump-campaig...

Re: Skynet – Build a Free Internet

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Post by CodeGlitch »

pbk1 wrote: post #107
CodeGlitch wrote: post #105

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> decentralized social network is build on Skynet AKA email. If Trump has been kicked off Twitter, there's nothing stopping him from providing an email newsletter where people can sign-up and recieve his crazy ramblings. Seriously wondering why people don't do this. Perhaps I shouldn't be giving Trump any ideas?

Don't worry, his newsletter providers are deplatforming him too.[0] [0] https://disrn.com/news/email-provider-suspends-trump-campaig...

Haha thanks for that.

Although there's nothing stopping him or anyone else running their own email provider.

Which is what is so great about email.

Re: Skynet – Build a Free Internet

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Post by phreack »

I had zero knowledge of what any of this was (Sia, Skynet, etc), tried looking it up on the page but the technical terms were too many and there was no glossary I could find. So I started searching, read the Readme on Sia's project on Gitlab, and then came upon this website [1] which harshly demonizes both Sia and Skynet due to maintainers banning a critic, and allegedly being generally toxic.

This is very much not a good look at all for the whole thing, and I suggest the developers should both solve this problem amicably ASAP, and also add very clear 'WHAT THIS IS AND HOW IT WORKS' links on every page related to the project, with many real world examples of how/why use this and with nearly no use of specific jargon that's not introduced clearly during explanations.

[1] https://siasetup.info/guides/using-skynet

Re: Skynet – Build a Free Internet

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Post by Esiason »

Taek wrote: post #43
turblety wrote: post #6

If you are using Skynet for your project, I believe you need to run a node, which will require downloading the 23GB [1] blockchain from sia. I really hope these blockchain based projects can solve the sharding problem. These blockchains are getting so big. [1] https://siastats.info/blockchain_size

My cofounder has been working on an upgrade for Sia that switches the core consensus engine to 'utreexo', which uses an accumulator rather than an entire blockchain history to verify new blocks and transactions. This brings down the effective size of the chain for users to just a couple of megabytes for the same history that currently takes 23 GB.

Note: Taek is the same user that the SiaSetup website (the main source of documentation about the project) is criticizing as "unstable project management". Be warned about this man before sinking any significant amount of personal time or money into this project. Source: https://siasetup.info/concerns-about-sia-and-skynet#banned
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