Facebook and Twitter might do well to just ban politics entirely at this point. It costs them a lot to touch it.
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#102Re: Ugandan government blocks Google Play Store, Apple App Store, and YouTube
#103Earlier quoted context omitted.
Ransacking through the capitol like imbeciles was very ill advised, but that’s not how a coup is executed. You need dedicated backers [cause oriented willing to sacrifice] high up in the armed forces as well as the intelligentsia. Rag tag groups do not execute coups. That’s a willful exaggeration and further evidence of how narratives tilt people’s thinking. This is the media and social media calling it that -they ca…
Honestly I feel bad for the people who were duped into doing the ransacking. They thought their leader was telling them the truth. The fact remains that the President gathered tens of thousands of people and, with a torrent of lies, weaponized them into an attack on the United States. Just because it failed doesn't make it any less grave of a crime.
> The fact remains that the President gathered tens of thousands of people and, with a torrent of lies, weaponized them into an attack on the United States. Just because it failed doesn't make it any less grave of a crime.
I cannot fathom why you keep saying this. Please present some evidence.
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#104Earlier quoted context omitted.
Ransacking through the capitol like imbeciles was very ill advised, but that’s not how a coup is executed. You need dedicated backers [cause oriented willing to sacrifice] high up in the armed forces as well as the intelligentsia. Rag tag groups do not execute coups. That’s a willful exaggeration and further evidence of how narratives tilt people’s thinking. This is the media and social media calling it that -they ca…
Honestly I feel bad for the people who were duped into doing the ransacking. They thought their leader was telling them the truth. The fact remains that the President gathered tens of thousands of people and, with a torrent of lies, weaponized them into an attack on the United States. Just because it failed doesn't make it any less grave of a crime.
I'm not really a fan. But I must say, he asked for a protest, not for them to storm the Capital. He probably wanted to stir it up, but never thought it would go that far. I have not seen any explicit tweets where he asked for that.
The other thing I want to mention (in demonstrating the two standards) is that the dem leadership cheered on protests in the summer with battle like language which turned into far larger and more consequential riots that somehow we dont talk about anymore. Many lost their livelihoods and some their lives. These went on for months, not 6 hours. Those riots by the way were encouraged by dem leadership but somehow have not been penalized on twitter or even critiqued. The unlevel playing field that essentially a cartel is laying out which we see time and time again is what people are getting fed up with and I can sympathize.
mullingitover - You might be correct that the claims were hyperbole. But I don't see a difference between the two sides in falsely justifying a protest that turned into a riot. For instance, the police brutality is not acceptable (and the imagery was terrible), but it was also mostly an astroturf and amplification of reality before an election to rally voters when you actually look at the FBI statistics of racial deaths in the hands of police. Both sides encouraged protests with battle like language. They both turned into destructive riots. One side was penalized.
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#105Earlier quoted context omitted.
> while censoring the 50% rest of the political spectrum Let's be clear: moderating/banning the accounts of a man and his supporters who invited tens of thousands of people to the United States Capitol, spent hours lying to them about the results of the election, and then weaponized them in an attempt to overthrow the US government is not a case of Twitter crossing some sort of threshold into tyranny. A grave crime w…
Let's be very clear: Trump did not "incite" an "insurrection". The dude was trying to hold a rally. Shit got out of hand much like in the George Floyd riots, but to a much lesser degree. In spite of the relative magnitudes of the death and destruction in those events, the insane leftist media has somehow decided to paint the George Floyd riots as understandable at worst and freaking obligatory at best. At the same ti…
Let's not split hairs.
When:
You have the world's largest megaphone.
You bring tens of thousands of hardline supporters to the Capitol on the day that officially seals the transfer of power.
You and your henchmen spend hours forcefully lying and claiming that the entirety of the national election apparatus is in a conspiracy to steal the election.
You tell them to march on the capitol to 'fight.'
You are inciting a riot.
When, as the capitol is being ransacked, you double down on the lie and continue to say the election was stolen, and to say you love them, you are continuing the riot and you are trying incite nationwide unrest.
This isn't complicated or "a matter of opinion."
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#106> foreign values Not even foreign values. Only subset of foreign values which are only shared by the Silicon Valley. Beyond that, half the US people disagree with Google/Apple/Twitter/Facebook’s non-neutral stance on politics, who weighed their full weight in censoring 50% of the political spectrum. I will not call it the pied piper because Uganda weighs nothing, but the GAFA’s politics are now visible as directly ha…
Trump voters were only 75 million out of 245 million Americans over 18. That’s a lot less than half.
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#107Facebook and Twitter might do well to just ban politics entirely at this point. It costs them a lot to touch it.
Good luck defining what counts as “political” speech.
Re: Ugandan government blocks Google Play Store, Apple App Store, and YouTube
#108> foreign values Not even foreign values. Only subset of foreign values which are only shared by the Silicon Valley. Beyond that, half the US people disagree with Google/Apple/Twitter/Facebook’s non-neutral stance on politics, who weighed their full weight in censoring 50% of the political spectrum. I will not call it the pied piper because Uganda weighs nothing, but the GAFA’s politics are now visible as directly ha…
> while censoring the 50% rest of the political spectrum Let's be clear: moderating/banning the accounts of a man and his supporters who invited tens of thousands of people to the United States Capitol, spent hours lying to them about the results of the election, and then weaponized them in an attempt to overthrow the US government is not a case of Twitter crossing some sort of threshold into tyranny. A grave crime w…
> A grave crime was committed this week
Like in 2011. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2011_Wisconsin_protests
And 2018. https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/supreme-court/protests-buil...
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#109Earlier quoted context omitted.
Honestly I feel bad for the people who were duped into doing the ransacking. They thought their leader was telling them the truth. The fact remains that the President gathered tens of thousands of people and, with a torrent of lies, weaponized them into an attack on the United States. Just because it failed doesn't make it any less grave of a crime.
I'm not really a fan. But I must say, he asked for a protest, not for them to storm the Capital. He probably wanted to stir it up, but never thought it would go that far. I have not seen any explicit tweets where he asked for that. The other thing I want to mention (in demonstrating the two standards) is that the dem leadership cheered on protests in the summer with battle like language which turned into far larger a…
> But I must say, he asked for a protest, not for them to storm the Capital
He's not completely stupid, at least in the short term. I'll give him that.
The fact is, however, that he made breathtaking, wholly unfounded claims of a vast conspiracy that if you believed them would lead you to believe that a revolution was in order and completely appropriate. Then he turned them loose on the Capitol.
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#110Earlier quoted context omitted.
> left leaning calls to violence get banned on social media all the time Yes they do, but a lot less that right leaning calls do, because social media companies lean leftwards. For example, Parler was recently kicked off of Google App store, and Apple and Amazon have also threatened to kick Parler off their app store and hosting platform. This was because Parler leans right and some messages by some users encouraged…
> This was because Parler leans right and some messages by some users encouraged violence. This had nothing to do with Parler's political leanings and everything to do with Parler's wildly inadequate content moderation combined with top users calling for the execution of public officials with impunity. Facebook's userbase is very right-leaning and has arguably just as many calls for violence, but they at least have a…
> This had nothing to do with Parler's political leanings
I think we're going to have to agree to differ here.
> Facebook's userbase is very right-leaning
Really? It seems to me that just about all adults on on Facebook (I can only think offhand of one person I know IRL who isn't). Thus FB will have the same political composition as the population.