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USA vs. Julian Assange Judgment

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Re: USA vs. Julian Assange Judgment

#101

So, she basically dismissed all other arguments of Assange team except the mental health argument/risk of suicide, and blocked extradition based on that. That's really interesting.

Yes, as soon his health gets better they can go on with the extradition.

Re: USA vs. Julian Assange Judgment

#102
post #80

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This is nonsense conspiracy theorism. There is unlikely to be any possibility of the judicial decision in this case being influenced by the UK government's policies on UK-US trade deals.

It is pretty far reaching, but I wouldn't say that it is 'unlikely to be any possibility' that the UK government would want to influence a high profile case, which is highly likely to impact the UK-US relationship.

Which is why there is absolute separation between the fiercely independent judiciary and the government in the UK. No influence is possible, consider the case of the MP convicted of rape and the fiercely independent judiciary pushing back on character references.

Re: USA vs. Julian Assange Judgment

#104
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Yes and? Australia should have asked the UK that he is extradited to them (and prosecuted under Australian Law) and not to a third party (with a possible death sentence). Espionage: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capital_punishment_by_the_Unit...

As an Aussie, sadly our politicians are a bunch of cowards.

Far cry from just years ago: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TYbY45rHj8w

Re: USA vs. Julian Assange Judgment

#105
post #82

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While I would prefer that Assange not be extradited to the USA on the specific circumstances of that case, extradition treaties in general seem reasonable? If a citizen of A commits murder in B and there is credible evidence, but the person has fled to C, should C not be able to extradite the person to B under any circumstances? Barring civil rights problems, corruption, etc (e.g., some very specific exceptions), it…

The problem with your analogy is the extradition treaties extend far beyond the red herring of "surely you want a murder to get justice right" This is not far removed from "Think of the children" style rhetoric that is used in the US to pass all kinds of oppressive laws and regulations Everyone can generally agree that having a murderer stand trail is a good thing, but what about someone that illegal distributes a fi…

That was simply a reply to a specific question asked in the previous comment.

Re: USA vs. Julian Assange Judgment

#107

Time for Australia to step up and own this one. Take your citizen home.

What I learnt over the past year is that Australia doesn’t really care about it’s citizens abroad.

The CCP has a strong influence on AU: I fear AU law more than US law.

Re: USA vs. Julian Assange Judgment

#108
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So is Julian Assange going to be released now or what?

"Mr Assange was jailed for 50 weeks in May 2019 for breaching his bail conditions after going into hiding in the Ecuadorian embassy in London." Given that the US Government is appealing and he has a record of skipping bail, I'd guess no. I suppose they might possibly let him out with an ankle bracelet, but no idea for sure.

Time served; it's already more than 50 weeks after May 2019, much though it may seem like it's still March 2020.

Re: USA vs. Julian Assange Judgment

#109

How will this affect US and UK relations? They are brother/sister countries. Snowden and Assange are 2 Americans most wanted, US would do anything to get them. Btw I'm not in favor of US Gov. spying but what Snowden and Assange did (leak state secrets) is criminal and they need to face justice.

It's quite common for EU countries to refuse extradition to the US on these sorts of grounds; can't see it having much effect.

Re: USA vs. Julian Assange Judgment

#110
post #24

I am incredibly happy for this ruling, I really hope it stands after the appeals. Freedom of expression and the right to know what oppresive governments are doing are too important to lose.

It's an awful ruling overall, from what I can tell from skimming it. It's great Assange won, but this ruling is not at all support for freedom of expression. This is the one part the judge agreed with the defense on as far as I can tell: > 363. I find that the mental condition of Mr. Assange is such that it would be oppressive to extradite him to the United States of America. For anyone not suffering from severe ment…

It is a magistrate court judgment, so as a precedent, it only has persuasive authority at best (or at worst, depending on your perspective) when deciding future cases.
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