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Reddit is buying TikTok rival Dubsmash

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Re: Reddit is buying TikTok rival Dubsmash

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Post by cmehdy »

arabelladonna wrote: post #84
somehnguy wrote: post #55

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The day reddit drops old.reddit.com is the last day I ever visit. The redesign is that horrible for anything but mindless scrolling watching clip videos.

To be frank, everyone complains about the design of new Reddit, but my biggest problem is just how incredibly slow it is. Plus, it feels like I get CDN inaccessible or server busy errors daily.

I just tried loading both websites in private windows on firefox and ublock origin:

old reddit loads in 1.75 seconds, 77 requests, and 10 things blocked by uOrigin, and I can see 8 pieces of news on the page which take most (75+%) of the visual real estate

new reddit loads in 4.75 seconds, 177 requests(!), 13 things blocked by uOrigin, and I can see one(!) actual item, which takes roughly 20% of the visual real estate

The new design also leads to one error in the console as my browser blocked a font ("downloadable font: rejected by sanitizer"). I can't imagine using their new design at all, and I'm not sure how they can justify the gap in these metrics for a company worth billions, unless a complete lack of useful information taking 3 times longer to load is what's trending.

edit: and it's not just me, pretty much any online tool I found gives similar outcomes.

https://www.dareboost.com/en/comparison?reportIds=a_25fd7b3a...

Re: Reddit is buying TikTok rival Dubsmash

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Post by saurik »

notyourwork wrote: post #28
saurik wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I mean, a sizable enough number of us continue to use old.reddit.com that it seems like they realize they can't force us onto the new design and are relegated to maintaining the old one for essentially forever... which to me says something incredible about just how badly their design failed.

> forever I suspect a Reddit PM is watching a usage of old.reddit.com metric and waiting for it to hit a certain threshold before canning it. Perhaps the migration has taken longer than they planned but I have no doubt in time old.reddit.com will be retired.

I 100% understood that, which was in fact the background of my thesis: it looks like they are going to be forced ("relegated", even) to maintain old.reddit.com forever because, explicitly, so many people aren't upgrading and the new design isn't succeeding in motivating these people to upgrade (even years later!). I mean, someone else on this thread noted that the new design seems to only have twice as many page views as the new design?! LOL

Re: Reddit is buying TikTok rival Dubsmash

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Post by paulintrognon »

That might be a dumb question but why all companies are trying to grow outside their core product? From what I see from the comments, all previous attempts from Reddit to extends to new domains have more or less failed. Shouldn't they just invest and focus into making their core product better, slicker, faster, instead of absolutely trying to conquer new territory?

Re: Reddit is buying TikTok rival Dubsmash

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Post by madeofpalk »

mskslal wrote: post #54
saurik wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I mean, a sizable enough number of us continue to use old.reddit.com that it seems like they realize they can't force us onto the new design and are relegated to maintaining the old one for essentially forever... which to me says something incredible about just how badly their design failed.

The redesign was a massive success. The goal was to turn reddit into a typical social media property, and it worked. Real conversation was pushed aside into niche subreddits, and was replaced by typical social media filler crap, like r/funny and pics and wholesomememes, etc. It was bad before, but I just feel like the redesign made it 100x worse. Try opening the reddit homepage, new design, no account, and tell me wi…

> Try opening the reddit homepage, new design, no account, and tell me with a straight face that that is a place where serious, well-thought discussion happens.

This has nothing to do with the new design. If Reddit was ever a place for “serious, well thought discussion”, it hasn’t been that way for the past 10 years.

Re: Reddit is buying TikTok rival Dubsmash

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Post by dorkinspace »

pletsch wrote: post #33
notyourwork wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> forever I suspect a Reddit PM is watching a usage of old.reddit.com metric and waiting for it to hit a certain threshold before canning it. Perhaps the migration has taken longer than they planned but I have no doubt in time old.reddit.com will be retired.

I expect features to just stop working on old.reddit as we get further away from the redesign, whether it be updates internally or full new features. This will continue until it gets unusable and then they'll kill it because 'nobody uses it!'

With the recent new features they have been adding, I would consider old.reddit not supporting them as a feature rather than a bug.

As others have said, none of the new features they have added have been desirable.

Re: Reddit is buying TikTok rival Dubsmash

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Post by dhritzkiv »

awakeasleep wrote: post #72
somehnguy wrote: post #55

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The day reddit drops old.reddit.com is the last day I ever visit. The redesign is that horrible for anything but mindless scrolling watching clip videos.

Reddit's video player more or less does not work

It makes me wonder what's going on at a technical level, that it's still broken after all this time. I would have figured that a dependable native video player is a solved problem.

Re: Reddit is buying TikTok rival Dubsmash

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Post by borepop »

mskslal wrote: post #54
saurik wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I mean, a sizable enough number of us continue to use old.reddit.com that it seems like they realize they can't force us onto the new design and are relegated to maintaining the old one for essentially forever... which to me says something incredible about just how badly their design failed.

The redesign was a massive success. The goal was to turn reddit into a typical social media property, and it worked. Real conversation was pushed aside into niche subreddits, and was replaced by typical social media filler crap, like r/funny and pics and wholesomememes, etc. It was bad before, but I just feel like the redesign made it 100x worse. Try opening the reddit homepage, new design, no account, and tell me wi…

>tell me with a straight face that that is a place where serious, well-thought discussion happens.

I only recently started reading HN after many years on Reddit, and even though a portion of what gets posted here is too technical and techy for me, I truly appreciate the thoughtful nature of the comments. It's quite a relief just to communicate with people who seem basically sane, mature, and intelligent.

Re: Reddit is buying TikTok rival Dubsmash

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Post by cuddlybacon »

sorenjan wrote: post #22

Reddit is searching for something, but I don't think they've introduced a single feature that makes it better since they added subreddits. They've added and removed community chat rooms [0], they still have some other kind of chat that I don't know if anyone uses, when I happen to visit new Reddit there's some kind of streaming broadcasts that I don't see anyone liking. And of course the redesign, but I suspect that…

> I don't think they've introduced a single feature that makes it better since they added subreddits

I think they've added plenty.

* Text only posts.

* Polls.

* Being able save individual posts instead of just threads.

* Friends. I use it to follow a few people who make stuff outside of Reddit but post intermittently on their respective subreddits. I don't use it at all for following my actual friends.

* Various features that prevent one subreddit from raiding others. np links are one, but there are others.

* Subreddit CSS.

* Mods being able to hide scores and the downvote button on their subreddit. It's a shame this isn't something done at the API level, as it means apps just ignore it.

* Suggested comment sorting. Can mitigate the natural tendency for a group to become an echochamber.

* Some of the features of reddit Gold are pretty good but considering you have to pay for them, they ought to be.

* Buying rewards is probably the least bad monetization scheme they could have come up with.

* While their image and video hosting is kinda crappy, it is there and it seems like imgur had to get less aggressive about forcing you to get an account.

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