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Re: Oracle Moving HQ to Austin

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Wait until they learn about cedar fever. Juniperus ashei pollinates in the winter, starting right about now through February. Pollen levels are still relatively low, but by January the trees explode and people are miserable. Last January they were reporting almost 28,000 cedar pollen grains per cubic meter of air in the Austin area. Misery. Pure misery. https://www.kxan.com/top-stories/cedar-pollen-reaches-highes...

You left out scorpions.

There's a reason we wear shoes indoors in Texas...

Re: Oracle Moving HQ to Austin

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How long before all the Californians make Austin the exact same place they fled from?

Average high/low temperatures in the summer for Austin are: June. 92° / 72° July. 96° / 74° August 96° / 74° Average high/low temperatures in the summer for Cupertino are: June. 75° / 55° July. 76° / 58° August 76° / 58° Austin will never, ever be like Silicon Valley because of this. The freedom you get from cooler weather is great from an energy utilization stand point and for allowing safer and more desirable condi…

>Now imagine 10 years time of increased global warming.

Wow, 0.1 degrees more, that will really tip the scales

Re: Oracle Moving HQ to Austin

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It means less taxes and less strict labor laws.

How does labor law impact anything when everyone is WFH ? Also, do taxes really have anything to do with your HQ location ? All corporations are registered in Delaware.

Often (maybe always?) employees pay income tax in the state where their company's headquarters is, or the local office in which they work.

Re: Oracle Moving HQ to Austin

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Is _this_ the point where everyone and their grandpa has finally figured out that Austin is cool, and therefore it is automatically not cool anymore? What's the next hip town?

Somewhere in the Southeast would be my guess. Nashville, or in the Carolinas, maybe.

Asheville would be my guess in that space. Huge beer and art scene. Still a blue dot in a very red state.

Re: Oracle Moving HQ to Austin

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Californians in LA/SF are used to paying $800k for a house, and the Cali salaries are high enough to support it. A Texan in Dallas/Austin is used to paying $250k for that same house, and has a relatively lower salary to match. The Californians, after years of having higher salary, more savings, and a job that lets them move, goes to Texas and offers $400k for that same house. The Californian thinks it's a great deal,…

>The Californians, after years of having higher salary, more savings, and a job that lets them move, goes to Texas and offers $400k for that same house. Nobody pays more for something just because they have more savings. They pay more because they might be getting outbid by someone. I don't see the purpose of characterizing that as "California exporting higher costs of living". People with more money outbid people wi…

>Nobody pays more for something just because they have more savings. They pay more because they might be getting outbid by someone.

No, they pay more because they can afford it. When a bidding war starts between a Californian and a Texan for the same house, the Texan loses every time because they can't bid as high as the Californian.

It isn't just housing, either. When a new grocery store opens up in one of these neighborhoods, do you think they just sell their goods as cheap as they always have? Of course not. They want to make a profit, so they up their prices because they know the Californians are more than willing to pay for it. The Texan who now struggles to make ends meet because food is more expensive? They get pushed out.

> You can say "Americans are exporting higher cost of living" by purchasing avocados from Mexico, or factory capacity in China, etc. and depriving the locals who can't afford to pay the same.

Yes, that is exactly what is happening. Have you ever been to any of these countries where Americans-with-money swoop in and starting buying up goods or property? They hate it, just as much as Texans hate the Californians who are moving in.

Re: Oracle Moving HQ to Austin

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How does labor law impact anything when everyone is WFH ? Also, do taxes really have anything to do with your HQ location ? All corporations are registered in Delaware.

Company still pays most of its taxes in HQ.

And many of those taxes are based on things like now many distinct offices you have for employees. This is one of the reasons we saw the death of private offices and a shift to the whole open workspace bullshit. Because you’d get taxed per office, whether it was being used 5 days a week or not.

Re: Oracle Moving HQ to Austin

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Is _this_ the point where everyone and their grandpa has finally figured out that Austin is cool, and therefore it is automatically not cool anymore? What's the next hip town?

Perhaps Boulder, unless it's already too late?

Just moved from Boulder because it had priced out the people that brought it's whimsy.

Re: Oracle Moving HQ to Austin

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What does this mean ? What does a HQ mean when people are permanent WFH ?

It means less taxes and less strict labor laws.

It means less taxes and less strict labor laws.

Not for people that remain in CA, WFH or not. For those that move to TX, what you said applies.

Re: Oracle Moving HQ to Austin

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I live in Austin, Oracle has a huge campus here that looks as big as an airport building with terminals/gates and all the trimmings. It's a beautiful building that gentrified the whole area, for better or worse. I ate there a couple of times, it's nice inside too! I love biking/walking around the Oracle campus area because they made a bike path and the area is safer than it was before. That being said, I know a coupl…

> That being said, I know a couple of people who work there and they don't like their job I’m not surprised. I haven’t met anyone who deals with Oracle because they want to, only because they have to.

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Re: Oracle Moving HQ to Austin

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based on the skyrocketing real estate prices in Phoenix, I suspect many Californians are moving to AZ.

Really? Never been in Phoenix but I saw last summer they had some heat waves reaching temperatures around 120F (on top of being very humid). Why is it popular?

Phoenix is a very dry heat, very little humidity. 120F is toasty, but its nothing a pool and margarita can't solve :). Our winters are fantastic. We have 300+ days of sun shine! We are 2-3 hours to the Mexican beaches, 2 hours to snow for snowboard/ski (flagstaff), lots of golf, lots of hiking, lots of Tech work (Motorola was a monster back in its day, Intel has a huge presence, Godaddy, Paypal, the list goes on), Baseball Spring Training is awesome!
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