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An update to storage policies across your Google Account

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Re: An update to storage policies across your Google Account

#101

so if I have registered MyChildsFullName @ gmail to prevent anyone else from taking it, I now need to make sure it gets at least one email every couple years to prevent them from deleting it before my child is old enough to use it?

There are a lot of mailing list and spam operators that wouldn't mind helping you out with that

Re: An update to storage policies across your Google Account

#102

The same happened to my old "...@hotmail.com" email, Microsoft deleted old childhood emails, still bitter about that. Per https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/outlook_com/forum/oemail... , the limit is 365 days of inactivity.

I still have an old @msn.com email address, I remember at the time you could choose from @hotmail.com, @msn.com or @passport.com. Haven't used it for email for at least a decade, but I do use it for OneDrive so my account stays "active".

Re: An update to storage policies across your Google Account

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They stop your gmail from receiving inbound emails if you don't pay to upgrade for storage [15gb]. Within 24 hours! I just reached that, and the first alert I see on my email [1] feels quite threatening. It's like I came home, and there's an unexpected eviction on the door. IMO, this is way worse that account inactivity. Who remembers that ever-increasing ticker on the gmail homepage that advertised "Your storage wit…

This is reasonable. Delete some filter emails won't take you 10 minutes

Agreed. Just more peeved that it upon registration, this would be the last exit I would have imagined from the product.

The marketing to acquire users versus to keep them is annoyingly polarizing.

>> Hey! Free growing memory. Choose gmail! Look! A counter that is incrementing in the browser real-time!

>> Much later... Nope. You reached the limit + we stopped your emails from coming in. Goodbye.

I'm definitely on the way out, just have been lazy about it.

Re: An update to storage policies across your Google Account

#104

Set a reminder every 3 or 6 months to use Google Takeout. Download a full copy of your data to a hard drive in your local possession. If you’re really paranoid, download a 2nd copy and put it on a hard drive that you then leave unplugged from all computers and the internet until the next time. Simple solution for anyone with broadband, and then if you ever lost your cloud data due to subscription lapsing or inactivit…

Is there an automated version of this?

Perhaps, if it can recognize traffic lights and crosswalks.

Re: An update to storage policies across your Google Account

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Likewise, so many amazing memories lost. I wish I could look back to how naive and childish I was at the beginning of my time online.

To give a little perspective, I basically don't have any pre-Yahoo/Google email history. So maybe going back 20 years or so and not much in the way of digital archives before about 10 years before that. Essentially nothing from BBS days, email on various proprietary systems, etc. Some shards here and there from the 1980s and a few things that were digitized prior. I'm not sure if it's good or bad (probably a bit of b…

I have email from when I got my college email address in the late 90s, but I still can't find email from earlier, when I had a couple different addresses that I'd gotten from my local dial-up ISP. I was always -- even then, when hard drive space was expensive -- pretty good about keeping old data as I moved from machine to machine, so it really bums me out that I can't find that old stuff.

Re: An update to storage policies across your Google Account

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Because the reason I signed up for GMail in 2004 was that they promised that they keep my emails forever

They promised 1GB, had a counter that slowly increased and thens settled at 15GB, as I remember.

Sure, but I’m right now paying for 1TB space, and I can easily forget for example if a credit card expires. Google makes enough money from my subscriptions to at least write my data to a tape when I stop paying, so that I can access it again even 10 years later when I start paying again.

Re: An update to storage policies across your Google Account

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What's another good email provider? I am starting to feel really nervous about storing my life in Google. It's not that I wouldn't pay for these things...it's just that I worry one day I'll lose access and fall into the pit of "trying to get Google to help a single human regain access" that sounds horrible.

I wish I could find this company again I saw online. It was a family owned "google photos" that was pay for, specifically and only sold photo storage for securing your family pictures. Dammit! Someone help!

Re: An update to storage policies across your Google Account

#108

The same happened to my old "...@hotmail.com" email, Microsoft deleted old childhood emails, still bitter about that. Per https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/outlook_com/forum/oemail... , the limit is 365 days of inactivity.

In a weird way, it's kinda comforting that other people have felt this. I spent ten (!) years trying to recover my childhood e-mail address which got hacked when I was a kid (password was 1123456789, lol). It was only this year that I _finally_ got to a human support agent who could verify my ID and told me that the account was completely wiped. It was a bittersweet moment, for sure.

Hmm.. that sounds like my password.

I should go change it.

Re: An update to storage policies across your Google Account

#109
Company giving you tons of free shit gives marginally less long lasting free shit. And its only if you're OVER the storage limit for an entire 2 years. And you can choose to pay for more storage if you'd rather keep the data. It's really not that bad...

I think sometimes people hold Google to insanely high standards. They gave us so much free stuff that people get mad when they try to charge for it. Others say to move to paid services where you're the "customer not the product", but people would absolutely lose their shit if Google started charging for Gmail, Maps etc.

I can't help but empathize with all the founders who warn about how difficult it is to raise prices.

Re: An update to storage policies across your Google Account

#110
I’m often the first to criticise Google but what they’re doing here isn’t exactly unprecedented. Free online mail providers have been removing inactive users since the 90s. Cloud storage providers remove inactive free users. A lot of companies even have a far more aggressive time line (pretty sure 90s Yahoo Mail was in the region of months rather than years) so 2 years seems pretty generous to me.

At the end of the day if you’re neither paying for nor even using the service, then why should they keep your account active? They have no obligation to store people’s data indefinitely at their own expense.

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