I don’t know why we keep caring what he thinks
Because he's been working on a 25 year old project that has fundamentally shaped a lot of what modern computing is today?
Linus Torvalds on the new MacBook Air
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#102If Linus wants to have an Arm laptop to run Linux, I wonder why didn’t he consider a Chromebook.
They're not good for compiling the kernel on a regular basis
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#103Earlier quoted context omitted.
My daughters school gives her a chrome book so she is growing up using Linux. Her fire tablet also uses linux.
That's not Linux Linux, that's Linux powered derivatives. It's a bit like saying that people who use Android phones use Linux. Sure, the kernel may be Linux, but they don't use the desktop Linux that everyone refers to when they use the word "Linux" (bar a few exceptions) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNU/Linux_naming_controversy
For the first comment it’s a Linux powered gnu/Linux derivative. It’s fully Linux. Just like android is fully Linux.
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#104Earlier quoted context omitted.
What advantages does Linux have for children over macOS? It’s UNIX, with the shell and all the OSS packages you could want. Very few children need to recompile the graphics stack, kernel, or drivers.
Very few Linux users too. The advantage is not locking them into a corporate environment that's getting more and more questionable and give them the oportunity to actually learn about computers.
I don’t get the impression that most people care to learn about computers, they just want things to work. In this way I’m not sure it’s much different than most other things we use in life.
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#105Earlier quoted context omitted.
There is something to be said here about greed and only appealing to the masses' basic instincts. In a lot of cases it makes money and people prefer it, but that doesn't equate to being good or being good for society.
What matters is actually meeting people’s needs effectively and at high quality. That’s what’s good for society.
Sort of like the fossil fuel industry?
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#107Full support for Linux on the M1 may not come for a long time. If ever.
I am confident smart heads could get Linux to boot in it, according to one comment someone already has.
But getting everything working and getting the best out of all parts of the M1 will take work. Esp. if Apple does not release detailed specs and drivers. (open source yeah right). Dynamically adjusting which cores to use high performance or energy saver for one.
I look forward to having a Linux compiler that knows how to make the best use of the 16 Neural Engine cores in conjunctions with the rest of the chip.
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#108Earlier quoted context omitted.
What incentive would Apple have to do that? For the most part their products have only gone up in price (as with the yearly iPhone releases). I'd expect exactly the opposite instead (e.g. thinner-bezel macbooks with face ID). A cheaper ARM Macbook would cannibalise their iPad sales. Laptops with OS freedom have always been a more niche thing, same as dual booting on a desktop machine. Short of selling laptops with no…
>their products have only gone up in price (as with the yearly iPhone releases) Hmm, not sure I agree with that. The iPhone 12 mini base price is $699 with 64GB. iPhone 3GS in 2009 with 8 GB was $599, or $727 in inflation adjusted 2020 dollars. Never mind the incredible increases in data rate, speed, display quality, and other capabilities. Or, take the iPhone SE, an incredible phone compared to the 3GS and it has a…
Kinda, if you compare small screen price, which is kinda fair.
Yet look what competition is able to do with $300 budget - 5G, 120 fps screens (although lesser quality), similar (or better) cameras, similar performance, bigger batteries (similar life tho).
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#109It should be a requirement for all computing devices to be Linux-compatible once the company making them gets to a certain size
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#110Apple goes all out reinventing the desktop processor, and all anyone wants to do is cut them down for not pre-porting Linux to it. So much bigoted hate and entitlement on display here.
Apple is a baron of customer hostility and anti-competitive practices. Customer lock-in, closed platforms, corrosion of right to own or repair, forced obsolescence. That's how they do business. Is there some point where how you do business becomes the product, and the intended product (e.g. reinvention of the desktop processor) becomes just a byproduct? We've a cultural inclination to focus on the what, and forget th…
Then don’t buy one. Not sure why anyone would be tired of a product they could ignore. Unless Apple and Microsoft are oppressive because they won’t collapse and build Linux laptops. It makes no sense. Just go run Linux on some ancient Thinkpad.