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The HubSpot Culture Code [slides]

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Re: The HubSpot Culture Code [slides]

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Post by ciarannolan »

chachachoney wrote: post #99
dshah wrote: post #2

The product I'm most proud of having worked on. Hundreds of hours invested for over a decade. Yes, it's a slide deck -- but think of it as a template. Shared with the community with love.

Calling this love, especially given the documented history of your company, is gaslighting, please stop.

Thanks for saying this.

There's the idealized culture that companies put in cute little slide decks and share online.

There's also the actual culture inside these companies where, for example, the FBI opens an investigation into company executives for "multiple failed attempts to manipulate and extort people” to prevent them from reporting on its culture. [1]

I'd be more interested in a deck on the latter, frankly, or some insight from HubSpot leadership as to what's changed culturally since then.

[1] [PDF] https://www.samueljscott.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/hubs...

Re: The HubSpot Culture Code [slides]

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Post by dshah »

zackbloom wrote: post #77

For the record, I started my career at HubSpot and found it to be a genuinely very well ran place. It actually spoiled me a bit, I had no idea most places have bad PMs or don’t give engineers autonomy.

Great to hear from you Zack. Thanks for chiming in and sharing your positive experience. Hope all is well.

Re: The HubSpot Culture Code [slides]

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Post by cercatrova »

lqet wrote: post #80
scandox wrote: post #49

Old World--------------------| New World--------------------| Me------------------------------- -----------------------------|-------------------------------|---------------------------------- Work to make a living | Work to make a difference | Nope [1] Follow explicit instructions | Chart the course | Depends on the role [2] Juggle work and life | Harmonize work and life | Sounds like: never stop working Commute int…

There you go: Old World | New World | Me -----------------------------|-------------------------------|---------------------------------- Work to make a living | Work to make a difference | Nope [1] Follow explicit instructions | Chart the course | Depends on the role [2] Juggle work and life | Harmonize work and life | Sounds like: never stop working Commute into work | Connect to work from anywhere | Sounds like: n…

Doesn't work on mobile, could you just make it a list?

Re: The HubSpot Culture Code [slides]

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Post by trynewideas »

layoutIfNeeded wrote: post #34

Make a difference ! Save the world! Do work that matters ! Yay! Oh wait... it’s just some shitty CRM SaaS. I almost took it seriously. I pity those non-manager and non-engineer HubSpot employees who had to suffer through this presentation, because at least managers and engineers tend to be compensated generously.

Having worked there in an entry-level customer-facing position, it is very much a company that looks great from the top half because you're standing on the backs of the bottom half. Also it paid so far under the market on salaries for that role that even cashing out on options _years_ later didn't make up the difference.

Re: The HubSpot Culture Code [slides]

#105

Post by freewilly1040 »

dshah wrote: post #57
hitekker wrote: post #48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why did you remove that call-out?

Candidly, this year, because of the pandemic, we've come closer together as a group. Not quite a family -- but closer. Also, I needed to make room in the deck to articulate our position on diversity and inclusion.

> we've come closer together as a group

Why are you confident that this feeling is shared by your employees?

Re: The HubSpot Culture Code [slides]

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Post by gk1 »

rchaud wrote: post #70
gk1 wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Worth noting the book is from 2016. Some times it takes a punch in the gut to make a change, but that change is possible. See: Uber after they replaced their CEO. I have no idea how things look at HS now, but I can't imagine it's exactly as bad as it was four years ago.

Quite a big difference between the two examples, wouldn't you say? The worst thing said about Hubspot in the book is that it's a cold-calling meat grinder for new college grads, and that company basically embodied all the ridiculous rah-rah stereotype of startup culture. That's what I remember at least. Uber OTOH had a culture of sexism and sexual harrassment that the CEO failed to address, while also flouting taxi l…

My point wasn't that they are equal, but that a company can change a lot (for the better) over four years.

Re: The HubSpot Culture Code [slides]

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Post by stuxnet79 »

scandox wrote: post #49

Old World--------------------| New World--------------------| Me------------------------------- -----------------------------|-------------------------------|---------------------------------- Work to make a living | Work to make a difference | Nope [1] Follow explicit instructions | Chart the course | Depends on the role [2] Juggle work and life | Harmonize work and life | Sounds like: never stop working Commute int…

Ah, this is a useful abstraction I can point others to if they ever accuse me of being too cynical about some of these so-called values. Nothing wrong with promoting them but as a worker you have to be wise enough to read the fine-print and understand what's being signaled implicitly.

Re: The HubSpot Culture Code [slides]

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Post by noir_lord »

dshah wrote: post #2

The product I'm most proud of having worked on. Hundreds of hours invested for over a decade. Yes, it's a slide deck -- but think of it as a template. Shared with the community with love.

I guess I'm not the target, after about 15 slides my brain was ringing the "Nothing interesting in any of this" bell.

Also do you still have the same management who went in for extortion to cover up a book that told the truth...

Re: The HubSpot Culture Code [slides]

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Post by layoutIfNeeded »

dshah wrote: post #57
hitekker wrote: post #48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why did you remove that call-out?

Candidly, this year, because of the pandemic, we've come closer together as a group. Not quite a family -- but closer. Also, I needed to make room in the deck to articulate our position on diversity and inclusion.

>articulate our position on diversity and inclusion

I wonder what that position could be! Must be some revolutionarily fresh take on diversity™ and inclusion™ that no other tech company had espoused before.

This is satire, right?

Re: The HubSpot Culture Code [slides]

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Post by Chris2048 »

commandlinefan wrote: post #69
Tade0 wrote: post #65

Just recently I started working at the sixth place in my 9-year career(excluding side jobs), so I am somewhat cynical. Here's the main problem with having a culture code: It's often created and agreed upon by a clique of employees who've been working there for years - newcomers get a say inversely proportional to the number of employees they encountered on their first day. The best culture I participated in was in a…

"We're super inclusive! We ooze inclusivity! We've never been non-inclusive ever, not even once!" This whole thing reminds me of a post I saw on reddit a few days ago: My 4-year-old: "Daddy, I didn't go peepee anywhere in the house. I just want you to know that."

pseudo-woke?
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