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Why Japanese web design is so different (2013)

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Re: Why Japanese web design is so different (2013)

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Feel free to read the article, where those websites are linked as the examples being discussed. Absolutely hilarious comment though. > Go on a safari around some of Japan’s most popular sites and here’s what you can expect to find (see Goo, Rakuten, Yomiuri, NicoNico, OKWave, @cosme, and more): The links, in case you still don't want to read the article: - https://www.goo.ne.jp - https://www.rakuten.co.jp - https://w…

The article was written seven years ago. What you see now is not necessarily what you would have seen in 2013.

Thank god for Wayback Machine!

https://www.goo.ne.jp/

https://web.archive.org/web/20131120212107/https://www.goo.n...

Pretty close, same dense pack of information, tiny photos. Seems to check most of the list.

Re: Why Japanese web design is so different (2013)

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You're not fan of thermostat controlled systems where you set a temperature you want and that's what it maintains? We have a Subaru with manual settings (3 dials) and a Volvo with a thermostat. The Volvo was set the day we bought it and I don't know that we've messed with it since. The Subaru, on the other hand, is always being adjusted. The Volvo one seems to be smart enough to know when hot or cold (dry) air is nee…

3 dials, with one being the temperature, one being the fan speed, and one more for the modes: https://i.pinimg.com/originals/d8/99/f0/d899f00fe8ae8cb22e6e...

They're aware; they're saying that targeted temperature is a simpler control that obviates the need to try to manually tune the fan, used vents and degree of heat.

Re: Why Japanese web design is so different (2013)

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(Disclaimer: IANAL - I am not a linguist) The Japanese language itself has very low "information density" - it takes many more syllables to convey the same thing in Japanese than it does in most languages. This is the result of the language having much tighter phonotactic constraints; literally there are fewer "legal" phonemes (and combinations of them) in Japanese than in most other languages. [1] This isn't a criti…

As a Japanese native who's fluent in English, I disagree with this. I regularly translate English (mostly technical) texts to Japanese, and the translation I get is roughly the same size as the original. Its density is certainly not "very low". The reason that you might think that Japanese is more "bloated" is probably because the form of the language you hear most - in TV news and speeches - are in the "polite" form…

I am completely ignorant here--how common is the polite form on websites?

Re: Why Japanese web design is so different (2013)

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I had to disable Adblock Plus for some reason to get the entire page to load. Ditto on the point where Japan is stuck in the 1980s future. Everything's optimized for tiny cellphone screens optimized for text. If I recall correctly iPhone adoption was slow, and many people lacked a desktop to provide updates. I still find wifi to be incredibly scarce in Tokyo. If people want a desktop, they go to a cafe. If they want…

> If I recall correctly iPhone adoption was slow

No way. It's hard to exaggerate what a smash hit the iPhone was in Japan. It immediately changed the mobile landscape, and continues to have an outsized market share: ~57% compared to 45% in the US

Re: Why Japanese web design is so different (2013)

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post #70

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As a Japanese native who's fluent in English, I disagree with this. I regularly translate English (mostly technical) texts to Japanese, and the translation I get is roughly the same size as the original. Its density is certainly not "very low". The reason that you might think that Japanese is more "bloated" is probably because the form of the language you hear most - in TV news and speeches - are in the "polite" form…

I am completely ignorant here--how common is the polite form on websites?

> I am completely ignorant here--how common is the polite form on websites?

Not op, but I can answer.

Not very common (reported speech, simulating speech, etc.).

Re: Why Japanese web design is so different (2013)

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3 dials, with one being the temperature, one being the fan speed, and one more for the modes: https://i.pinimg.com/originals/d8/99/f0/d899f00fe8ae8cb22e6e...

They're aware; they're saying that targeted temperature is a simpler control that obviates the need to try to manually tune the fan, used vents and degree of heat.

But the reasoning for choice of the first two isn't just about desired temperature.

Basically I think three dial is the right UI, but the temp one should be a thermostat, not output control (as I guess it generally is based on experience) - that doesn't obviate the need for (or utility of) the other two.

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