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Re: Popular Pirate Sites ‘Disappear’ from DuckDuckGo’s Top Search Results

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Post by michaelmrose » Sat, Nov 14, 2020, 11:18 PM UTC

smaryjerry wrote: post #18

Is the government so inept that it can’t do it’s policing itself? Why are search companies being forced to police the internet for the police? If there was a business down the street doing illegal gambling, I would not say “hey let’s just stop buses from taking people there.” Hell no. Any decent police would go stop that business from operating, not go to the bus companies taking people there.

People can run both VPN services and pirate websites which merely index torrents in jurisdictions that wont stop such. Then when bob shares files with sue over their respective torrent clients all their packets travel overseas before reaching each other.

These tools aren't harder for end users to use than netflix or Hulu. VPN services tend to provide a gui app with a big ol button that says connect and a tray icon that turns from red to green.

They pretty much have to be content with trying to keep the bus from going there because its all they have. The smarter plan is still continuing to make Netflix and Steam awesome so people don't want to bother to pirate.

Re: Popular Pirate Sites ‘Disappear’ from DuckDuckGo’s Top Search Results

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Post by marakv2 » Sat, Nov 14, 2020, 11:32 PM UTC

captn3m0 wrote: post #69

l0b0 wrote: post #66

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Unfortunately any such scheme nowadays would be a lucrative target (to say the least) for bots and mechanical Turks. It would basically just become another SEO metric. Instead you can exclude a specific site using "-site:example.com". This works on at least DDG and Google. Now, if only search engines would let me save those exclusions as preferences (even in a cookie, in case of privacy-focused search engines like DD…

I might be too sleepy, but I think there was a time where Google supported blacklisting a site on logged in queries?

There was! I found out about the feature about a month before it was removed...

Re: Popular Pirate Sites ‘Disappear’ from DuckDuckGo’s Top Search Results

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Post by matheusmoreira » Sun, Nov 15, 2020, 12:01 AM UTC

_23sd wrote: post #97

matheusmoreira wrote: post #85

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> But Hollywood's imaginary lost revenues justify any unintended consequences, right? In their minds, yes. They're absolutely self-righteous about their data monopoly. We had a thread about a content decryption key leak some days ago: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25078096 Here's some fun posts... > Who remembers when TPB were going to buy Sealand in order to host trackers out of the reach of authorities? > Is…

The whole Twitch music DMCA fiasco and the obvious outrage of punishing people for playing their favourite tunes in public made a funny thought occur to me. With the trend toward "smart cities" and "smart vehicles" and the increased surveillance that comes with that, how far are we from the day when the smart freeway Content ID's the music you're playing loudly enough for others to hear and shuts down your car speake…

Yeah. I got that email from Twitch too. It was just an explanation about the DMCA as if we didn't already know. What a joke.

Technology was supposed to enable us to do more as human beings. It was supposed to empower us to do what we want. Instead we're wasting it on these bullshit industries that honestly shouldn't even exist anymore. It's become just yet another form of control meant depower instead of empower. The computer is limitless, they purposefully restrict it just to force people to pay money in order to use it.

They're not the true threats, though. The big picutre is government control of computers. Governments simply cannot handle the notion that people are not under their control. Technology like encryption and anonymization are inherently subversive to any government. They will seek to regulate it, just like they're imposing laws all over the internet today.

Re: Popular Pirate Sites ‘Disappear’ from DuckDuckGo’s Top Search Results

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Post by drummer » Sun, Nov 15, 2020, 12:34 AM UTC

alexandrvicente wrote: post #41

drummer wrote: post #28

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Yep, my own research also shows that vaccines are dangerous in various ways. Also the power of big pharma and big tech when it comes to money and censorship.

I don’t think we’d be seeing new measles outbreaks if big tech and big pharma were that effective at censoring anti-vaxxers.

You'll find plenty of examples online of cases where the vaccine is responsible for the outbreak of the disease it supposedly protect against.

Re: Popular Pirate Sites ‘Disappear’ from DuckDuckGo’s Top Search Results

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Post by xtracto » Sun, Nov 15, 2020, 2:25 AM UTC

marakv2 wrote: post #102

captn3m0 wrote: post #69

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I might be too sleepy, but I think there was a time where Google supported blacklisting a site on logged in queries?

There was! I found out about the feature about a month before it was removed...

Google search has had a lot of interesting features like the time when it showed tweets directly in the search results.

Re: Popular Pirate Sites ‘Disappear’ from DuckDuckGo’s Top Search Results

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Post by thotsBgone » Sun, Nov 15, 2020, 2:30 AM UTC

ximeng wrote: post #3

The best long term solution to overbearing copyright is to create more content with permissive licenses. E.g. David Revoy creates art using open source software: https://www.davidrevoy.com/ Just as Microsoft and Apple would no doubt have even more locked down OSes if there wasn’t a fallback of Linux, so the more competition for people’s attention that is not controlled by large corporations, the less bargaining and c…

Good luck making Breaking Bad with a permissive license.

Re: Popular Pirate Sites ‘Disappear’ from DuckDuckGo’s Top Search Results

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Post by inquirerofsorts » Sun, Nov 15, 2020, 4:03 AM UTC

Dylan16807 wrote: post #58

spurgu wrote: post #50

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Let me, eh, yandex that for you: https://i.imgur.com/JgUxoTk.png

An example of one search being the same, when that search isn't likely to trigger any takedowns/removals, isn't very helpful.

  https://yandex.com/search/?text=the pirate bay

  https://yandex.ru/search/?text=the pirate bay

Takes less time than writing that comment.

Re: Popular Pirate Sites ‘Disappear’ from DuckDuckGo’s Top Search Results

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Post by inquirerofsorts » Sun, Nov 15, 2020, 4:05 AM UTC

wmf wrote: post #55

BlueTemplar wrote: post #30

Hmm, how long before rights holders turn their Sauron Eye towards Wikipedia ?

Does Wikipedia make it easy to find pirated content?

It's the only reliable source of urls now in the shifting sands of registrar removals.

Re: Popular Pirate Sites ‘Disappear’ from DuckDuckGo’s Top Search Results

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Post by srg0 » Sun, Nov 15, 2020, 9:03 AM UTC

bko wrote: post #4

I made an app that lets you compare duck-duck-go results with that of google, side by side [0][1]. One thing I found is how bad ddg is at removing conspiracy theories and other misinformation. Google is, for better or for worse, much more managed. For instance, search "are vaccines dangerous", google replies with .org and .gov sites, while ddg promotes dangersofvaccines.com. Even if you search "dangers of vaccines" i…

I searched for "are vaccines dangerous" in ddg, and the results are reasonable.

https://duckduckgo.com/?q=are+vaccines+dangerous&t=fpas&ia=w...

The first page of the US search results: vaccines.gov, chop.edu, cdc.gov, livescience.com, scientificamerican.com, nytimes.com, newsweek.com, healthline.com, who.int, mayoclinic.org. That's a good mix of the official outlets and some popular explanations. Results change of you specify a different region or no region at all. For reference, these are results in Italian, many of them are rebuttals of a minister claiming that vaccines are useless and dangerous: https://duckduckgo.com/?q=vaccini+pericolosi&t=fpas&ia=web

But if you try to search English terms in a non-English region, expect ask kind of SEO garbage.

Re: Popular Pirate Sites ‘Disappear’ from DuckDuckGo’s Top Search Results

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Post by textgel » Sun, Nov 15, 2020, 9:38 AM UTC

mschuster91 wrote: post #94

textgel wrote: post #83

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Perhaps the fixes for the problems we have shouldn't involve some patchwork bodge to the laws that align our principles but should instead start at investigating why we need these bodges in the first place? It's an unthought out idea but between existing slander laws, a reasonable expectation of common sense/reason from your average citizen and a lack of corruption in government; I'm wondering if setting up the syste…

> a reasonable expectation of common sense/reason from your average citizen Half the US has voted for someone explicitly denying science, half the UK has voted for Brexit, in some areas of Germany 25% vote for people just a few beards short of Nazis, Bolsonaro is still in office. The "average citizen" can not be trusted to vote in their own interest or in the interest of the future generations.

For the third time.

> your faith believes false accusations against perceived heretics are acceptable tactics; your word against them is less than empty.