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Funkwhale – Decentralized, self-hosted music server

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Re: Funkwhale – Decentralized, self-hosted music server

#101

I know this kind of thing might not be very popular on HN, but I like their anti-meritocracy statement: https://funkwhale.audio/en_US/code-of-conduct

Anti-meritocracy just sounds to me like you want to be judged or given privileges by who or what you are, not by what you contribute. It pretty much goes against equality but is being presented as a means to equality.

Am I just misinterpreting it or do people supporting it just not thought more deeply about what it is they're supporting?

Re: Funkwhale – Decentralized, self-hosted music server

#102

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>someone else's wrong joke >punishing people for jokes Again, we're talking about sexual harassment and racism. It's important not to leave that part out.

It's still a dangerous territory. Do you remember when Adria Richards overheard two guys talking about dongles and forking at a conference, assumed it was offensive/sexual and got them fired, before we learned that... they were talking about dongles and forking?

So on the one hand, we have a massive systematic problem across virtually all online platforms. This problem involves (at least) thousands of new examples every day and so far has proved nearly impossible to control. And next to that we have a different problem based largely on idiosyncratic examples, and extrapolations from those idiosyncratic examples to hypothetical worst case scenarios.

I find this way of engaging with the problem to be profoundly misguided in two ways. One, it's a failure to correctly evaluate the relative scale of the two problems, and to consistently think and speak clearly about them in terms that reflect their relative scale.

And secondly, it mistakenly sets up the two problems as being in a relationship of interference with one another, such that talking about one is used to mean we should stop talking about the other. Instead of saying "this statement that racism is bad and sexual harassment is bad is a statement I do not support" it would be more helpful say "yes, that is a problem, I agree, we need to solve it. And meanwhile here's this other thing, but don't let this other thing detract from the importance of the first problem or imply we don't need to actively work on the first problem."

Re: Funkwhale – Decentralized, self-hosted music server

#103
post #2

How do musicians get paid on this platform?

Donations I think. They should be able to add links to their homepage, PayPal, patreon, etc. Or maybe that's an upcoming future, I can't remember exactly.

If this is an existing feature, or when they add it, the platform becomes way more interesting to me. I'd love to pay musicians directly instead of the embarrassingly low payouts from services like Spotify.

Re: Funkwhale – Decentralized, self-hosted music server

#104

wow, totally support decentralized stuff like this. wonder how long will this get taken down like popcorn time?

It uses the ActivityPub protocol, so all someone has to do is spin up another instance in the fediverse (there are already many) if one gets taken down.

Re: Funkwhale – Decentralized, self-hosted music server

#105
post #19

I've been using this for a little over a year and like it a lot but it lacks the music discovery features of commercial platforms (which becomes important when you have terabytes of music) and takes a lot of effort to organize music and create play lists. The music onboarding process typically starts with organizing metadata with Musicbrainz Picard then import the collection into Funkwhale's DB via a cli admin tool.…

I cannot upvote Funkwhale enough. I've had the need for something like this for a long long time now. A decade ago I was lucky to have my own desktop computer (before it was a shared one with my brother, before that I had just my parent's from time to time). Nowadays, between the smarphone, the work laptop, my desktop and my laptop I cannot possibly have all my music available all the time. And I don't like using spotify where I don't feel I own the songs and they get dropped from my lists. I used to be a fan of grooveshark, but that went down. Now I can have my pod and share it with my friends? On my own server? Accessible everywhere? I'm in.

Where can I donate some money?

Re: Funkwhale – Decentralized, self-hosted music server

#106
post #84

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They get paid from whatever service you bought your music from - be it from CDs, MP3 sites like Amazon or Google Play (RIP), etc. Scary thought, being able to purchase music these days rather than a streaming service lease, I know...

If I am only sharing with my family, then fine. But it looks like this software allows you to create a pod and share with whoever you invite. Which my purchase doesn't cover, right?

Did your purchase cover your family? Why should your spouse and children be allowed to listen to music licensed to you?

Re: Funkwhale – Decentralized, self-hosted music server

#107
post #82

Earlier quoted context omitted.

`curl | sudo bash` is for the non-technical people who may have just sshed into a server for the first time. If you don't put it front and center, they will be lost. The experienced sysadmins such as you and I can skip the paragraph and find an alternative we like.

Non technical people are not going to run terminal commands to install software.

We were all non-technical people once, and many of us learnt by doing just that.

Re: Funkwhale – Decentralized, self-hosted music server

#109

I know this kind of thing might not be very popular on HN, but I like their anti-meritocracy statement: https://funkwhale.audio/en_US/code-of-conduct

Me too! I used to frequent their Matrix room a year or so ago and it was a very nice place. Very refreshing to find a tech community that made me feel like I could say what I wanted without being interjected by STEM and debate lords.

Unfortunately life drove me away from the project, especially now that I work remote and barely leave my home, but every now and then I feel like contributing again just because of how nice everyone is.

Re: Funkwhale – Decentralized, self-hosted music server

#110
post #13

I know this kind of thing might not be very popular on HN, but I like their anti-meritocracy statement: https://funkwhale.audio/en_US/code-of-conduct

> We have an ethical responsibility to refuse to work on software that will negatively impact the well-being of other people. Such as creating a platform for people to listen to music for free by sharing it with others without paying the artist?

Does BitTorrent fall under that? Or YouTube? Plex? Google Drive?
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