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Ubuntu 11.04 (Natty Narwhal)

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Re: Ubuntu 11.04 (Natty Narwhal)

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I've had it installed on my main machine since late December. There were some rough patches as things were landing during the beta period, but right now this is easily the best desktop I've ever used. My workflow adapted to some of the additions in Unity so quickly that it was absurd. At this point I could never go back to something without Super+#, Super+w, Super+s and the other keybindings found here: http://askubu…

The background with shortcuts on that link was pretty cool: http://i.imgur.com/cbjs0.png

I believe it's an overlay. The one below it is a background.

Re: Ubuntu 11.04 (Natty Narwhal)

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post #59

I'm not going back to linux on the desktop until it can sleep my laptop reliably. OSX is so nice for that. Just close the lid and go... I can't imagine working any other way now.

It isn't that sleep works reliable on OSX, it's that sleep works reliably on a Mac . You see, when you buy a Mac you know every feature (including sleep) has been tested thoroughly. When you decide to install an OS on a computer you already own, you put the onus to test on yourself . I don't understand why people continue to make this unfair comparison. If you want a linux computer where sleep just works, by a preins…

That makes a lot of sense.

Are there any major PC manufacturers that ship with Ubuntu? I imagine the day you go to Sams and buy an Ubuntu system will be a big milestone for Linux.

Re: Ubuntu 11.04 (Natty Narwhal)

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post #59

I'm not going back to linux on the desktop until it can sleep my laptop reliably. OSX is so nice for that. Just close the lid and go... I can't imagine working any other way now.

It isn't that sleep works reliable on OSX, it's that sleep works reliably on a Mac . You see, when you buy a Mac you know every feature (including sleep) has been tested thoroughly. When you decide to install an OS on a computer you already own, you put the onus to test on yourself . I don't understand why people continue to make this unfair comparison. If you want a linux computer where sleep just works, by a preins…

It may be an unfair comparison, but it's still very relevant (although on the other hand you do have a point- there are preinstalled systems you can buy the same way you would with OS X or Windows).

Re: Ubuntu 11.04 (Natty Narwhal)

#104

I am wondering, if Unity isn't supported due to lack of hardware acceleration, does it fallback to Gnome2? (does it mean it still bundles Gnome along with Unity?). This is essential to make a choice between Xubuntu and Ubuntu when running in a VM

Yes, it does fall back to "Ubuntu Classic", how it is called.

Re: Ubuntu 11.04 (Natty Narwhal)

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Isn't having all of these different key bindings pointless when GnomeDO can bring them all up?

Sure, it might be if GnomeDo was installed by default and tweaked to do the same thing. But since it isn't, I would hardly call it "pointless", but rather, awesome.

It seems like that's a big theme with the latest Unity changes. Huge improvements over the default desktop, but nobody I know was using the default desktop; they all heavily modified it with devilspie, xmonad, and friends, which are far beyond what Unity offers.

So while it seems like a good development in the abstract, it's hard for me to get excited about it personally.

Re: Ubuntu 11.04 (Natty Narwhal)

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post #59

I'm not going back to linux on the desktop until it can sleep my laptop reliably. OSX is so nice for that. Just close the lid and go... I can't imagine working any other way now.

I recently started digging into Arch and getting sleep to work was surprisingly easy. (pm-suspend and modifying handler.sh for power button/lid events).

Re: Ubuntu 11.04 (Natty Narwhal)

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post #43

I find the description of which image to choose confusing. You need the a 64-bit image to handle processes over 4GB, right? Why is the x86 version recommended for "most machines with Intel/AMD/etc type processors and almost all computers that run Microsoft Windows." (That's from the server description, too.)

No. Memory > 4GB is not a reason to use 64bit. If you want to address > 4GB of RAM on 32bit, install the PAE kernel. I think the meta package is called linux-generic-pae. Use 64bit if you want to run applications that will benefit from it. EDIT: If in doubt, use the 32 bit one as it will give you less friction for general purpose desktop use.

I find that in order to run Eclipse properly with lots of plug-ins, a fairly big project and Tomcat running at the same time you NEED 4gb. Yes, Java uses a lot of memory but I have 9 gb in my desktop so I'm just fine thanks. 4gb dimms are available for about $54, according to Pricewatch, so quit complaining.

Re: Ubuntu 11.04 (Natty Narwhal)

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post #46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No. Memory > 4GB is not a reason to use 64bit. If you want to address > 4GB of RAM on 32bit, install the PAE kernel. I think the meta package is called linux-generic-pae. Use 64bit if you want to run applications that will benefit from it. EDIT: If in doubt, use the 32 bit one as it will give you less friction for general purpose desktop use.

He said processes accessing more than 4 gb, not total memory - aren't individual processes are still limited to 4 gb of memory with PAE?

I don't know the technical reason, but most 32 bit apps on Linux are limited to 2GB (2^31 bytes).
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