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Stable 1.2 Gigabit/s Internet achieved in moving train in Switzerland

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Re: Stable 1.2 Gigabit/s Internet achieved in moving train in Switzerland

#101

They are using the same technique they use in Japan. In Tokyo, you get full signal strength, wherever you are (even in tunnels going underwater). That's because they have mobile antennas everywhere , including lining all the railway lines. I'll bet that their service ain't so cheap, though (I was roaming, when I was there, and that was definitely not cheap).

Parts of London tube system is being kitted out with cell data too. i.e. in the tunnels not stations

Re: Stable 1.2 Gigabit/s Internet achieved in moving train in Switzerland

#102
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I would honestly pay significantly higher taxes if we could get Swiss-quality train service in parts of the US (and especially if they have good internet). When I traveled Boston to NY in the past, compare my flight experience vs Amtrak. Flight: - Take $25 Uber to airport and get there 1 hour early to go through security and wait. - Fly to JFK (1h 20m) - land, wait to get off, go through terminal again, then take $50…

I don't mind using Amtrak for business travel between Boston-NYC. Parts of the trip are pretty scenic. You can get delayed quite a bit by other rail traffic, but as you point out, you still have a table and can move around. Acela isn't much faster, but it is a lot smoother then the regional trains.

But for family travel, we end up driving, as the cost for 4 people is just too high (even considering expensive NYC parking).

Re: Stable 1.2 Gigabit/s Internet achieved in moving train in Switzerland

#103

They are using the same technique they use in Japan. In Tokyo, you get full signal strength, wherever you are (even in tunnels going underwater). That's because they have mobile antennas everywhere , including lining all the railway lines. I'll bet that their service ain't so cheap, though (I was roaming, when I was there, and that was definitely not cheap).

Cheapest 4g flatrate subscription in CH is 25€/m. Average is 60-70€/m

I don't understand how the more expensive providers can still have customers.

Same network, same conditions, different label on the box, 3x the price, at a price point where it should matter to most people...

Re: Stable 1.2 Gigabit/s Internet achieved in moving train in Switzerland

#104
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The main problem with the US interstate train system is that it's run on freight train lines. Amtrak and Acela do not actually own the railway they use and they can only go a certain speed due to the grade of the track. I don't think you would be willing to pay the amount of taxes you would need to, to completely redo the railways haha. Anyways Amtrak are barely turning a profit as it is and while it would be great t…

I'll probably always take the train into Boston. Even though it's a little more expensive than taking a greyhound or driving (if I can find parking), I don't like to drive in Boston. However, if I needed to go much further I'd be in a bind. The website is really difficult to use at times. I was trying to get to Maryland(?) at one point to buy a used car, but I couldn't find a page that would show me stations near whe…

If you can drive in Boston, you can drive almost anywhere -- e.g. I didn't find driving round the Arc de Triomphe in Paris particularly difficult. Who needs lines? :-)

But I'd probably take the commuter train instead if they ran more often -- if we ever go back to offices.

Re: Stable 1.2 Gigabit/s Internet achieved in moving train in Switzerland

#105
post #4

I would honestly pay significantly higher taxes if we could get Swiss-quality train service in parts of the US (and especially if they have good internet). When I traveled Boston to NY in the past, compare my flight experience vs Amtrak. Flight: - Take $25 Uber to airport and get there 1 hour early to go through security and wait. - Fly to JFK (1h 20m) - land, wait to get off, go through terminal again, then take $50…

The main problem with the US interstate train system is that it's run on freight train lines. Amtrak and Acela do not actually own the railway they use and they can only go a certain speed due to the grade of the track. I don't think you would be willing to pay the amount of taxes you would need to, to completely redo the railways haha. Anyways Amtrak are barely turning a profit as it is and while it would be great t…

Amtrak has never turned a profit. Ever. They have never even broken even.

Re: Stable 1.2 Gigabit/s Internet achieved in moving train in Switzerland

#106
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Can you share some article to back up your facts? All I could find here is, american freight trains are longer and run over a longer distance. : https://www.freightwaves.com/news/railroad/us-and-european-f... . After living next to train tracks in SF (for 7 yrs) and in PDX for (over 2 yrs) I can tell you that train tracks traffic is not even 10% of Euro cities like Stuttgart, Rotterdam let alone Berlin or Paris. If t…

Here's something written for non-industry people: https://www.economist.com/briefing/2010/07/22/high-speed-rai... Your article notes that rail freight costs are much lower in the US (for shippers), while profitability is high. That suggests that the US rail network is... good for freight? I don't know about Portland, but SF has almost no freight traffic. The caltrain tracks don't go anywhere (what are you going to do…

Exactly so coming back to my original question: my cannot US invest in high speed train from 4th and King to Napa valley? What is holding it back?

Re: Stable 1.2 Gigabit/s Internet achieved in moving train in Switzerland

#108

Just as a fun thought experiment, what /new/ things could be possible if we had 1Terabit/s?

Computers could use small local hard drives and download what you need instantly. All of your documents would be backed up into the cloud because your entire hard drive would essentially be "the cloud"

Bandwidth != latency

Re: Stable 1.2 Gigabit/s Internet achieved in moving train in Switzerland

#109

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£20 for a flight is so, so foreign as a Canadian. Domestic flights here are easily 10x that on a good day. In the before times, it was pretty much the same price to get a last minute VIA train ticket or a Porter flight between Ottawa and Toronto. If you’re lucky, early, or a student, you can get a train ticket quite a bit cheaper.

For an overview of these super-cheap flights, see the Ryanair website: https://www.ryanair.com/ie/en/plan-trip/explore/getaways Even some quite long -- for Europe -- flights, like 4½ hours for Dublin to Athens, are just €20. Some shorter ones are €10. (This only includes a fairly small cabin bag, put under the seat in front. The service level is roughly equivalent to a cheap intercity bus.)

> are just €20

Well, they are for some tickets. Ryanair (like any airline, and indeed train line) is heavily dependent on people booking late and paying much, much more.

Re: Stable 1.2 Gigabit/s Internet achieved in moving train in Switzerland

#110

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The main problem with the US interstate train system is that it's run on freight train lines. Amtrak and Acela do not actually own the railway they use and they can only go a certain speed due to the grade of the track. I don't think you would be willing to pay the amount of taxes you would need to, to completely redo the railways haha. Anyways Amtrak are barely turning a profit as it is and while it would be great t…

Amtrak has never turned a profit. Ever. They have never even broken even.

Is this the metric we should be grading everything on? My kid hasn’t either but I love her nonetheless.
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