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Re: Facebook, Twitter block the NY Post from posting

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's different because it was written by a major American newspaper. Twitter should not be exercising editorial control over the news.

The New York Post is not a serious newspaper; it is a sensationalist tabloid. Sometimes the NYPost will report on real news, but I believe absolutely nothing they report until it is verified by the New York Times, Washington Post, LA Times, or other major broadcast outlet with actual journalistic standards.

None of them are serious. NY Times made a big deal out of trumps taxes when everyone knows depreciation offsets revenue in real estate, its 101 stuff. You get taxed when you sell the asset which happens infrequently but in large magnitude. Most people in the industry were laughing at the gaslighting they did on that story but they fooled their little pawn readers. Just one example out of many. Every news source is full of shit even the ones that are supposed to be reputable.

Re: Facebook, Twitter block the NY Post from posting

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If I was a Twitter or Facebook investor, I have one question:

What did you expect was going to happen?

Honestly. Did nobody have the foresight at Facebook or Twitter to think that this wouldn't blow up? Did nobody think, just once, that this might invite regulatory action or be in news headlines?

And if honestly nobody thought this might happen, I'd want the entire management and "safety" team replaced for having no foresight for their actions whatsoever.

Re: Facebook, Twitter block the NY Post from posting

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post #83
post #54

There's a recurring argument on social media censorship that goes: "you wouldn't want the telephone company censoring phone conversations would you?" And the response is along the lines: "these are hardly private conversations, any tweet can go viral and be seen by millions". This story breaks that mold in that it involves social media censoring private conversations via DM. If you think that's OK for Twitter on its…

The difference between the telephone company and Twitter is that the phone company was (historically) a monopoly - the only game in town . Use their wires or get lost. It required common carrier neutrality by regulation. Twitter (and every single commercial social media space) is not the above, and can do what it wants on its service. It's not a public utility.

It's not just Twitter, it's also Facebook. (I believe Facebook was actually the first to take action.) What if Google does it too?

In the past few years, we've seen these big tech companies operate in a manner that seems collusive. They follow each other's cues. One company is the first to censor, and then the other companies follow very quickly with the exact same censorship. (The quick collective action tends to dilute the criticism against any single one of those companies.) It's not just one company doing what it wants, it's all the major players doing the same form of censorship.

Re: Facebook, Twitter block the NY Post from posting

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We changed the URL from https://twitter.com/sohrabahmari/status/1316446749729398790 to an article with more information. If there's a more informative source, we can change it again. Edit: I've changed it from https://nypost.com/2020/10/14/facebook-twitter-block-the-pos... to what looks like it may be a more neutral source. Other users have supplied these related links: https://www.businessinsider.com/new-york-post-h…

The Yahoo article that you've linked appears to be a republication of an article from the National Review ( https://www.nationalreview.com/news/twitter-cites-hacked-mat... ). Perhaps it would make more sense to link to the original source?

Ok, changed to that from https://news.yahoo.com/twitter-cites-hacked-materials-policy.... Thanks!

Re: Facebook, Twitter block the NY Post from posting

#106
post #74

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I really hope AT&T starts censoring these damn spam calls. I've had 5 today.

They can’t. Because that actually is a technology not built to be moderated.

If they had to give me five dollars for every spam call that got through, I bet they'd find a way to stop it.

T-mobile already classifies these calls as 'Scam likely' and they've never seemed to misclassify any, so obviously it can be done.

Re: Facebook, Twitter block the NY Post from posting

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Much like the HN thread that applauded FB getting rid of some thousands of accounts related to “right wingers”, QAnon, et cetera, I equally applaud this admirable move. I hope that FB, Twitter, Google, Cloudflare and others continue to block and close accounts to prevent the intervention of democracy as much as possible. A similar case to this may have been the reason why Hillary Clinton lost the presidential electio…

Right, but what if the story is 100% legit, and the people interfering in democracy are actually FB, Twitter, Google and Cloudflare? All of which are heavy lobbyists, and have their own interests at heart. Shouldn't they just be elevating journalists that are casting doubts on it, or going in to try to confirm or refute the story...instead of just outright blocking something that isn't verifiably false? This isn't remotely the same as QAnon or antivaxxing, as that are verifiably false.

Re: Facebook, Twitter block the NY Post from posting

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weird that there is actually no mention of these materials being hacked from anywhere though, or did I miss that? It seems like this computer shop fellow voluntarily gave over this hard drive only after the computer in question became his property (as a result of someone not collecting the computer and not paying the bill) LOL now this post has been flagged wtfff

>It seems like this computer shop fellow voluntarily gave over this hard drive only after the computer in question became his property (as a result of someone not collecting the computer and not paying the bill)

To say this strains credulity would be be a massive understatement.

Re: Facebook, Twitter block the NY Post from posting

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post #83
post #54

There's a recurring argument on social media censorship that goes: "you wouldn't want the telephone company censoring phone conversations would you?" And the response is along the lines: "these are hardly private conversations, any tweet can go viral and be seen by millions". This story breaks that mold in that it involves social media censoring private conversations via DM. If you think that's OK for Twitter on its…

The difference between the telephone company and Twitter is that the phone company was (historically) a monopoly - the only game in town . Use their wires or get lost. It required common carrier neutrality by regulation. Twitter (and every single commercial social media space) is not the above, and can do what it wants on its service. It's not a public utility.

The combination of twitter and Facebook are a huge percentage of public conversation. "Just go start your own twitter" is missing the point.

How would you feel if they had banned all talk of russian conspiracies the last few years? Would you be making the property rights argument still?

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