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Why would you expect better performance at a lower price?
Because the manufacturing techniques have improved? You can see the effects of better manufacturing techniques in other parts.
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Be more excited that ECC is now part of the standard, and without a speed compromise.
Does this mean it will work on any motherboard? On the whole, I find these 20% performance memory upgrade (leading to a fraction of that in real-world performance) more obnoxious than anything, but I'd love ECC!
The unanswered question is, will it be cheaper? Price / GB of DRAM hasn't actually fallen much in the 10 years of progression.[1] LPDDR is still over $3/GB. UDIMM is still ~$3 /GB, which is about the same in 2010 / 2011. i.e Despite what you may heard about DRAM price collapse in 2019, the price floor of DRAM has been pretty much the same over the past 10 years. Every other silicon has gotten cheaper, NAND, ICs, just…
It has been 10 years since the last company not known to be a party to DRAM cartels has left the market.
Will we get performance increases, and how big will they be in the average case, not for some specific codes with low cache hit ratio on large datasets, and attributed solely to bandwidth increases and not architecture IPC improvements?
"For bandwidth, other memory manufacturers have quoted that for the theoretical 38.4 GB/s that each module of DDR5-4800 can bring, they are already seeing effective numbers in the 32 GB/s range. This is above the effective 20-25 GB/s per channel that we are seeing on DDR4-3200 today." That looks like a 20%+ improvement IF you are bottle-necking on DDR4.
There are even 4800mHz DDR4 DIMMs available now, even if they are niche.
EDIT: DDR4 is 3200 not 3800.
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Because the manufacturing techniques have improved? You can see the effects of better manufacturing techniques in other parts.
In the end price discovery is supply/demand, and it appears investment in DRAM manufacturing is focused on improving RAM performance, and just keeping up with demand, not outpacing it. Since the barrier to entry is very high, there's not so much pressure to compete further on price.
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They aren't price fixing anymore. Now it's called CapEx and water start.
water start?
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It seems nearly impossible that they aren't back to price fixing. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DRAM_price_fixing
They aren't price fixing anymore. Now it's called CapEx and water start.
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Its 2020 and you're still on a crt?
Eurogamer did write a review about playing modern games on a (very good) CRT monitor [1]. It's better than any LCD and even OLED monitors according to them: [1] https://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2019-moder...
One thing I'd like to understand better about DDR5 is how well the built-in ECC is going to work to improve reliability. DDR5 comes with "chip level ECC" [1] of which the main purpose is to be able to better sell highly complicated memory chips with minor defects. But as a consequence as I understand, it will allow for the correction of single bit memory flips. With regular DDR4 or previous generations, you don't get…
I also expect servers to use two levels of ECC to provide chipkill and also to keep server RAM more expensive than consumer.