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Enjoy the Best, Not the Latest, Media

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Re: Enjoy the Best, Not the Latest, Media

#101
This guy doesn't get it. The industry for media is way more complex than this and it involves an interplay between media consumers and creators.

What is defined as "best" is a constantly moving target because audiences are getting more and more sophisticated. Every time the industry breaks new ground with new media or a new concept, the audience learns from the experience and the movie industry can only regurgitate that concept so many times before the concept becomes redundant.

You think something like game of thrones could have been made two decades ago? What drives the sophistication of TV shows up to the point where they kill off the main character in the first season just to keep you interested? Doing outlandish stuff like this was never needed to keep audience engagement in the past... In fact movies made nowadays are waaaay to intense for audiences back in the 60s.

This isn't something I'm just making up. Movie execs are very very aware of this issue, they know that the bar needs to be constantly raised to engage viewers and ironically by every time you raise the bar you train the audience to be even more more sophisticated and you gotta raise the bar again.

I'm only a matter of time before audiences are so sophisticated that they begin realizing this fact as well.

Right now, in general, the audience isn't intelligent enough to recognize this positive feedback loop. To the audience this phenomenon mostly appears as "all modern movies are stupid except for the classics."

What's going on is that the "classic" you love so much was the bar raiser and all the other movies that came after it are filler in attempt to capitalize on the concept and raise the bar further. The cycle continues until one random movie actually successfully changes the game.

How many marvel movies need to come out before the whole franchise becomes boring? I'm enjoying the franchise right now but I know that eventually it won't be as good as the classic original movies that started it all.

Re: Enjoy the Best, Not the Latest, Media

#102
post #26

As someone who apparently frequents much more pretentious online film circles than OP, the idea that the highest rated films and shows on IMDB represent the "best" of the mediums is kinda silly. The article uses Star Trek (2009) as its example of a mediocre film. Its IMDB rating is 7.9/10 from over 500k votes over 11 years -- surely this would place the film squarely in the "tried and tested" category. If I look on s…

Netflix is a luxury lowbrow brand, a digital status symbol boredom reliever, the opposite of elevating expectations of quality. They know they cannot compete with the backlog on quality, so an all out assault on individual assessment is waged on users. Netflix discovered that the search for novelty is a near perfect substitute for novelty itself -- when self-congratulatory choice fatigue is factored in. The future of film is on the same path as ever: basic, boutique, or blockbuster, maybe some a.i. remastering to align with dainty modern audio and visual trends and extract the most out of newbs with the allure of familiarity.

Re: Enjoy the Best, Not the Latest, Media

#103
post #55

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is why I used to love Rotten Tomatoes: between the audience score, the critic score, and the top critic score, you get three telling data points about what sort of person us likely to enjoy the movie. I have read a lot less film criticism since Roger Ebert died though. It seems like recently anything remotely enjoyable on rotten tomatoes gets above 90.

Most critics are jerks, passing off attitude and masquerading opinion as deep domain knowledge. The comic book guy trope from the Simpsons or Sponge Bob. Roger Ebert [1] and Gene Siskel [2] were my introduction to analysis and argumentation. Watching two adults getting into a argument and discussing something using some sort of rules-of-engagement fascinated me. That they viewed a piece from so many angles, criticism…

What are some other professional duos?

Long gone now but the trio of Howard Cosells, Don Meredith and Frank Gifford enamored me similarly as a young boy, and for similar reasons to the point of today I still find sports commentary far more enthralling than the game itself.

My favorite duo today, while a biased favorite as a local are Len Casper and Jim DeShaies who are the home announcers of the Chicago Cubs. They bring a spirit and joviality influenced by deep reverence for the game of baseball that I don’t think can be touched by any other broadcasting duo in the league (this is relegated to television broadcast announcers, there are too many to name in radio I think).

Every time a Cubs hitter knocks one out onto Waveland, and Len lets out an “oh BABY that ball is GONE” I like to imagine the late legendary Haray Caray is looking down on the booth smiling upon this generation of Cubs color commentator.

Re: Enjoy the Best, Not the Latest, Media

#104
Arthur Schopenhauer, Parerga and Paralipomena, Volume 2, On Reading and Books, 295 -

"Because people always read only the latest, instead of the best of all times, writers stay within a narrow circle of circulating ideas, and the age silts up ever more deeply in its own muck.

Therefore with respect to our reading the art of not reading is extremely important. It consists in our not picking up whatever happens to be occupying the greater public at any given time, such as for instance political or literary pamphlets, novels, poems and so on, which currently make a lot of noise and even reach several editions in the first and last years of their run. On the contrary, we should consider that whoever writes for fools always finds a large public, and we should devote the always precious and carefully measured time set aside for reading exclusively to the works of the great minds of all times and peoples, who tower over the rest of humanity, and who are distinguished as such by the voice of fame. Only they really shape and instruct us.

Of the inferior we can never read too little and the good never too often. Bad books are intellectual poison: they ruin the mind.

In order to read the good it is a condition that we do not read the bad; for life is short, and our time and our powers are limited."

Re: Enjoy the Best, Not the Latest, Media

#105
A lot of media released now is poisoned by a much stronger symbiosis with its own deployment into "the market."

Netflix and all others track every minute of the shows they release. They track where people drop off, what they spend watching, for how long, what scenes they repeat. They probably track which scenes and stills are capped and shared on social media.

This alters the content, especially in something like a TV show which has time to be created in a reactive way.

The hallmark of a 2020 streaming show is a scene with 2-4 spicy, post-able bits of dialogue with a glaringly obvious connection to the political, social, or cultural malaise of This Month. TV shows are increasingly becoming just a chain of those.

This was always the case (studios have always had a profit motive) but with the internet it's turned up to 11. Like everything else in our culture, I guess.

Re: Enjoy the Best, Not the Latest, Media

#107
post #26

As someone who apparently frequents much more pretentious online film circles than OP, the idea that the highest rated films and shows on IMDB represent the "best" of the mediums is kinda silly. The article uses Star Trek (2009) as its example of a mediocre film. Its IMDB rating is 7.9/10 from over 500k votes over 11 years -- surely this would place the film squarely in the "tried and tested" category. If I look on s…

Letterboxed is a really important part of today's movie watching story

Re: Enjoy the Best, Not the Latest, Media

#108
post #51

A similar sentiment from one of Haruki Murakami's characters in Norwegian Wood: The better I got to know Nagasawa, the stranger he seemed. I had met a lot of strange people in my day, but none as strange as Nagasawa. He was a far more voracious reader than I, but he made it a rule never to touch a book by any author who had not been dead at least thirty years. “That’s the only kind of book I can trust,” he said. “It’…

I think Murakami is kind of winking at elitism with "[y]ou and I are the only real ones in the dorm".

Yes, Nagasawa isn't the sort of character one should want to emulate in real life.

Re: Enjoy the Best, Not the Latest, Media

#109
I am somewhat confused by what the author is suggesting here. "Best" is a highly subjective term in this case. Also, the media described as "the best" was also once new.

There was a day before Star Trek:TNG came out, and then the next day it premiered. By the author's own reasoning he or she wouldn't have watched "the best tv show ever made" until after the invention of IMDB and its listing there.

I personally enjoy watching new content because it's a bit like real-time anthropology. The media we create and consume says something about the society that forms the context around its creation and consumption.

I suppose not everybody feels this way, and that's fine. I don't really have any desire to tell people what or what not to watch or listen to. This blog post being so sure of its content is a bit... odd.

For example, using the term "best album" over "the album I enjoyed the most" kind of indicates a surety that feels somewhat like they're talking down to you. I guess my question here is "Why?"

Re: Enjoy the Best, Not the Latest, Media

#110
Some random golden oldies (mostly not including anything 1990's or newer).

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Dersu Uzala

Battle of Algiers

Z

The Third Man

Touch of Evil

Planet of the Apes

In The Mood for Love (OK: It's not that old)

The Killing Fields

The Lives of Others (OK: It's not that old)

The Straight Story (OK: It's not that old)

On The Waterfront

12 Angry Men

Mary and Max (OK: It's not that old)

Marty

Matewan

The Girl With the Red Scarf

City Lights

Umberto D

Fireworks (OK: Not that old)

How Green Was My Valley

Ordinary People

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