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Re: Samsung Ads – Demand-Side Platform

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Post by rahimnathwani »

fredley wrote: post #37

Reminds me of the Amstrad Emailer: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amstrad_E-mailer It started out with a few innocuous ads, then it got worse and worse until at one point it started displaying adult ads on a device that was on prominent display in people's homes. There was quite a backlash.

I bought one of these, partly because the in-store advertising/info panel said it was capable of fax.

I returned it the next day after unboxing it and discovering that the fax capability was actually just the ability to connect to an Amstrad-operated gateway, that used a premium-rate number, costing something like 50p/minute.

Re: Samsung Ads – Demand-Side Platform

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Post by stevehawk »

altdatathrow wrote: post #83
troydavis wrote: post #34

If you own an Internet-connected TV, you've been seeing these for 2 years or more. I submitted it 11 months ago ( https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21427405 ) and it wasn't new then. The ACR-based retargeting audiences ( https://www.samsung.com/us/business/samsungads/resources/tv-... ) are probably the most offensive. For example: "Reach viewers who saw your competitor’s ads as quickly as 60 seconds after linear a…

ACR sourced data sells like hot cakes in the alternative data world. You can literally know what an individual (“anonymized”) person watches and when.

where/how does one purchase that data?

Re: Samsung Ads – Demand-Side Platform

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Post by TedDoesntTalk »

troydavis wrote: post #34

If you own an Internet-connected TV, you've been seeing these for 2 years or more. I submitted it 11 months ago ( https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21427405 ) and it wasn't new then. The ACR-based retargeting audiences ( https://www.samsung.com/us/business/samsungads/resources/tv-... ) are probably the most offensive. For example: "Reach viewers who saw your competitor’s ads as quickly as 60 seconds after linear a…

> If you own an Internet-connected TV, you've been seeing these for 2 years or more

How to prevent all Samsung tracking and advertising:

1. Factory reset your Samsung TV.

2. When promoted to accept the Samsung EULA, select no/reject

3. Attach computer or streaming stick to Samsung HDMI port (Windows, mac, chromebook, appleTV, chromecast, Amazon Firestick, Roku stick). I use an ancient PC with Linux Mint installed. You can use KODI or Plex if you like that interface, but I don’t.

4. Select that HDMI input on the TV.

5. Enjoy streaming video with Samsung-free ads and Samsung-free tracking

Optional but recommended: Logitech wireless K400 keyboard/touchpad ($20)

Re: Samsung Ads – Demand-Side Platform

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Post by secondcoming »

mnw21cam wrote: post #74
arafa wrote: post #65

I suspect that one day we're going to have to start logging into our TVs, and that will be a terrible day.

The ITV and Iplayer apps on a Samsung smart TV require you to log in before showing any content. That day has already arrived.

Don't they require that on the non-TV apps too?

Re: Samsung Ads – Demand-Side Platform

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Post by scrollaway »

AznHisoka wrote: post #94

It seems most people's concerns are around obtrusive ads on the home screen. Which I agree with, as those are very annoying and takes up way too much sense. However, there is another component to Samsung Ads - the video ads on their Samsung Plus Channel. For those that don't know, this channel consists of free content (usually B-level movies, old TV series, etc). Why does anyone have a problem if Samsung puts ads on…

> Why does anyone have a problem if Samsung puts ads on this content?

You're the only person mentioning this avenue in the entire comment section. Safe to say, it doesn't sound like people have a problem with ads there.

Re: Samsung Ads – Demand-Side Platform

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Post by livueta »

smartisass wrote: post #24

Someone in a previous thread mentioned Sceptre TVs. They are dumb. Incredibly low priced but quality models available (55" 4k HDR HDMI 2.0 for $300) [1]. They have 30yrs experience. Seems a good company. Have high-end models too. [1] https://www.sceptre.com/TV/4K-UHD-TV/U550CV-UMRD-55-4K-UHD-T... Anybody here have one?

I've got one - an older 1080, though. Got it for $50 when my roommate at the time had to return to China on short notice and had to get rid of most of his stuff.

It's fine. Takes a while to turn on but otherwise just works. I'm not super-discriminating about display quality, but nothing about the display has ever bothered me.

Re: Samsung Ads – Demand-Side Platform

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Post by effingwewt »

AznHisoka wrote: post #94

It seems most people's concerns are around obtrusive ads on the home screen. Which I agree with, as those are very annoying and takes up way too much sense. However, there is another component to Samsung Ads - the video ads on their Samsung Plus Channel. For those that don't know, this channel consists of free content (usually B-level movies, old TV series, etc). Why does anyone have a problem if Samsung puts ads on…

I'll take a shot. People are just done with ads. My samsung S20 ultra costs me ~1300, and has ads on the phone, as in the native Samsung apps for everything. And since none can be installed I now have worthless bloatware I had to replace with ad free working alternatives.

Samsung tvs are hilariously bad with ads all over.

On neither item is it possible to flash this crap away or disable it. People love to tout things being free for our data, but this is paying over $1k to still have some of the most intrusive ads ever.

You must own one of their products to watch their ads with shows thrown in (Samsung channel) and this means you have paid for access to that channel and are still being served disgustingly intrusive ads(as others pointed out they screen grab and send home images of everything you watch on any input)

Re: Samsung Ads – Demand-Side Platform

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Post by hda2 »

searchableguy wrote: post #63
Macha wrote: post #54

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Spotify reads a webcam to hide ads when the viewer is not looking at the app? Or it pauses ads when the app is muted?

when you lower the volume too much, it pauses the ads.

What the fuck.

I remember the "Please drink a verification can" joke that was floating around a few years back. Didn't think we'd be here so soon.

Can you just use an old headphone with an audio slider and mute the ad that way?

Either way, Spotify is now on my list of nope services.

Re: Samsung Ads – Demand-Side Platform

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Post by Wowfunhappy »

manuelabeledo wrote: post #19

I keep seeing people who argue that TVs would be notably "more expensive" if they didn't come with ads. Let's say that the average Samsung TV costs $1,000, ad revenue per person is around $30 a year, and the average lifespan of a TV is 10 years. I own a Samsung TV since 2016. I think they may have pushed 5 firmware updates since then. There is no way I can be convinced that Samsung needs to increase the price of TVs…

> I keep seeing people who argue that TVs would be notably "more expensive" if they didn't come with ads.

In a competitive market, you can certainly imagine a situation where this would be true. Competition should drive prices as low as they can go, and if manufacturers make money from ads, they can afford to not make a profit off hardware (and maybe even sell it at a loss).

In which case, the questions are:

1) Is this a trade-off we're okay with? (Advertisements and privacy violations in exchange for cheaper televisions.)

2) How can we support a business environment that leads to this outcome?

We ought to focus on #2 anyway, for all sorts of reasons.

For #1, I think it's fairly easy to say "no, everyone should have a guaranteed right to privacy", but as a fairly well-off person, I'm not sure I'm comfortable making that decision for everyone else.

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