Seems like a win-win. Remove a threat, while limiting civilian and surrounding damage.
US military increasingly using drone missile with flying blades in Syria
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Firstly there's the vengeance aspect. Al Qaeda did 9/11, along with many other terror attacks against the US. Hurras al-din has also given support to ISIS, who destabilized a good chunk of the middle east. It's a bad look since a lot of Americans died to effect regime change in Iraq. If Iraq ends up turning into a full-blown theocracy, it makes our efforts there seem even more wasteful. According to the Russians, he…
>Al Qaeda did 9/11, along with many other terror attacks against the US. This statement is funny because the US support of "moderates" has resulted in military support of the Al-Nusra Front, al-Qaeda wing in Syria (they have tried to rebrand themselves, but only blind will not recognize in them a radical islamist organization).
It's also funny because Al Qaeda was a front for the people that actually did 9/11.
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#103Earlier quoted context omitted.
They’re certainly bothering people and threatening peoples’ freedom. All of them? What percentage of the dead were terrorists? Because "they" in this case is referring to around 1 million people now.
People fail to notice that many who are killed are innocent, and this actually creates more people willing to fight back. It's a vicious cycle, and the murdering of innocent people only makes it worse.
"I'll tell you what war is about, you've got to kill people, and when you've killed enough they stop fighting."
-Curis LeMay
Re: US military increasingly using drone missile with flying blades in Syria
#104I'm kind of over the whole "Look, we killed someone far, far, far away for dubious reasons with NEW technology" articles. These folks halfway across the world aren't bothering, nor do they actually threaten my freedom in any way shape or form.
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It's not like that same regime didn't make their own deals without folks from the outside... I don't buy into the idea that the Syrian government can claim some level of legitimacy by default and everyone else is subject to criticism for gathering support from other places.... The local's weren't sitting around happy as a clam and just up and decided to start a civil war because someone told them to, it's not that si…
There is a REALLY big difference between country-wide protests and a hot civil war. Without support from the Gulf state and the West, I think it's quite probable that this civil war wouldn't have started. >I don't buy into the idea that the Syrian government can claim some level of legitimacy by default and everyone else is subject to criticism for gathering support from other places.... The fact that the government…
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#106Earlier quoted context omitted.
I don't see them drone striking and assassinating the Emirs and Saudi royalty who are responsible much of the "freedom-limiting" activity in the Middle East though.
Do you realize you're defending al-Qaeda?
I'm proposing talking about these issues in terms of the actual (largely commercial, on both sides) interests involved, instead of amorphous terms like "protecting our freedom". In the name of protecting "freedom", the United States has propped up totalitarian and brutally oppressive regimes in countries all over the world. Maybe it's time they start using a different buzzword to describe their goals.
IF the US does that right, they might even get the chance to stop arming, training and empowering the next generation's enemies.
Re: US military increasingly using drone missile with flying blades in Syria
#107Earlier quoted context omitted.
There is a REALLY big difference between country-wide protests and a hot civil war. Without support from the Gulf state and the West, I think it's quite probable that this civil war wouldn't have started. >I don't buy into the idea that the Syrian government can claim some level of legitimacy by default and everyone else is subject to criticism for gathering support from other places.... The fact that the government…
It's an interesting contrast, your concern about outsiders involvement, and the basis for support for a oppressive government ... recognition from the outside. I believe government legitimacy has more to do with it's own people's feelings about the government's legitimacy and that government's own actions.
Let's get it straight, in your opinion a simple unilateral designation of a foreign government as "oppressive" is enough to justify actions which will help to overthrow it (including black flag operations and general destabilization), to fund and train militias which will fight against it, and even take a direct military action against the government forces?
Do you think that Russian support of Donbass rebels in the Ukrainian civil war is justified?
If your answer to the first questions is yes, and no to the second one, then I am afraid you think in terms of the mainstream propaganda, so the further discussion between us will be fruitless.
Re: US military increasingly using drone missile with flying blades in Syria
#108Earlier quoted context omitted.
>Al Qaeda did 9/11, along with many other terror attacks against the US. This statement is funny because the US support of "moderates" has resulted in military support of the Al-Nusra Front, al-Qaeda wing in Syria (they have tried to rebrand themselves, but only blind will not recognize in them a radical islamist organization).
It's also funny because Al Qaeda was a front for the people that actually did 9/11.
And Osama bin Laden was a "freedom fighter" in the eyes of the West once.
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/anti-soviet-warrior...
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#109Earlier quoted context omitted.
They’re certainly bothering people and threatening peoples’ freedom. Thanks to the export of fundamentalist Islam from certain countries, my home country of Bangladesh is a more dangerous place today then when we left 30 years ago. (And it was under a military dictatorship then!) Unsurprisingly, we take harsh measures to crack down on fundamentalism, including banning Islamist parties and executing terrorists: https:…
If radicalization in these countries works anything like it does in the west, then the missiles would be more effective at preventing radicalization if pointed at social media tech executives.
Information wants to be free.
Re: US military increasingly using drone missile with flying blades in Syria
#110I'm kind of over the whole "Look, we killed someone far, far, far away for dubious reasons with NEW technology" articles. These folks halfway across the world aren't bothering, nor do they actually threaten my freedom in any way shape or form.
Maybe you are only under the impression that your freedom is not threatened due to the legions of people working in the background to secure it.
Not really. I'm a black person in the US. Historically, the people "threatening" our freedom have always been in the US. It's never been the Soviets, never been the VietCong, never been the Sandinistas, never been Al-Qaeda or anyone the US has chosen to go to war with. As Jay-Z said:
"Bin Laden been happening in Manhattan Crack was anthrax back then, back when Police was Al'Qaeda to black men"