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Introducing Prompt. Nice SSH for iOS.

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Re: Introducing Prompt. Nice SSH for iOS.

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Post by matthijs »

jcsalterego wrote: post #42
xyzzyb wrote: post #38

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Indeed. Paired with gnu screen and some bash scripts Terminal is very nice. I've got, for example, ctrl+a+t setup to trigger a script that opens a new screen tab, prompts for [user@]host:, starts up an ssh session to the host, renames the tab to host for easy reference.

I still use Terminal.app on a daily basis but here are some missing features: - 256 color support (for your pretty emacs or vim) - advanced bookmarks, with tagging - send to multiple tabs

For 265 color support you can use this: https://github.com/timmfin/terminalcolours

Re: Introducing Prompt. Nice SSH for iOS.

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Post by mhw »

rsynnott wrote: post #84
Maascamp wrote: post #75

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Actually, I believe in this case iOS users are paying because they're conditioned to pay. I don't think the quality argument for this ssh client really holds water. Maybe Android users are just more discerning in who they give their money to?

You know there are many cheaper and free ssh clients for iOS, right?

Free ssh client for iOS? Do you have an example? I'm genuinely interested, but haven't found one.

Re: Introducing Prompt. Nice SSH for iOS.

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Post by cparedes »

danilocampos wrote: post #66
jrockway wrote: post #8

So, as a UNIX hacker, here's what I don't get about the iOS community. There is way too much excitement over the simplest things ever. Let's break down some of the copy for this app: Prompt is a clean, crisp, and cheerful SSH client What does that mean? What does a clean ssh client do; not commit any protocol violations? What is crisp? When you bite into it, it's like a ripe apple? What does cheerful mean? Is the ssh…

> There is way too much excitement over the simplest things ever. Simple things done well are among the most delightful discoveries I can make in my human existence. Have you ever had a perfect omelet? I mean, perfect? Fluffy, nice balance of tasty fillings, not overdone? I have. Maybe twice. Each time, it was wonderful . Wonderful for the fact that with just five ingredients, it created subtle, delicious flavors and…

Wait, what?

ssh is simple.

I suspect that the typical person needing to SSH into a box is already someone who knows how to operate in UNIX. Otherwise, you're using the wrong protocol.

Re: Introducing Prompt. Nice SSH for iOS.

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Post by mryall »

sigil wrote: post #78

Does anyone else have a major problem with the idea of using a closed-source SSH client? Even if it is App Store reviewed, I just can't bring myself to type production passwords into such a thing. For this reason, and because I'd also like an on-the-go SSH client setup that works on other devices, it would be great to see a browser based terminal emulator and pty muxer like ajaxterm [1] really take off. It's almost t…

Even in your preferred case, you're typing your passwords into a closed source browser on a closed source OS. You have to trust someone at some point.

Panic also seems to be a quite reputable company. They've been in the Mac software business for a long time.

Re: Introducing Prompt. Nice SSH for iOS.

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Post by akent »

cschmidt wrote: post #69
Maascamp wrote: post #13

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It seems just like ConnectBot for Android, except it costs $5.

I think your comment highlights a difference between the Android and iOS communities. Android users just want free software, while iOS users don't mind paying for quality. Guess which platform ends up with the slickest software, with the most spit and polish. Developers find paying customers on iOS, so that's where the develop.

Technically minded Android users develop good software (like ConnectBot) for themselves, and then share it with the like minded community for free as in beer and free as in freedom.

Re: Introducing Prompt. Nice SSH for iOS.

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Post by SpaceAcer »

jrockway wrote: post #8

So, as a UNIX hacker, here's what I don't get about the iOS community. There is way too much excitement over the simplest things ever. Let's break down some of the copy for this app: Prompt is a clean, crisp, and cheerful SSH client What does that mean? What does a clean ssh client do; not commit any protocol violations? What is crisp? When you bite into it, it's like a ripe apple? What does cheerful mean? Is the ssh…

That's some good trolling there. Here's an idea: take your ignorance and go read a book, stop posting comments on the internet.

Re: Introducing Prompt. Nice SSH for iOS.

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Post by rhygar »

jrockway wrote: post #8

So, as a UNIX hacker, here's what I don't get about the iOS community. There is way too much excitement over the simplest things ever. Let's break down some of the copy for this app: Prompt is a clean, crisp, and cheerful SSH client What does that mean? What does a clean ssh client do; not commit any protocol violations? What is crisp? When you bite into it, it's like a ripe apple? What does cheerful mean? Is the ssh…

Insufferable much?

Re: Introducing Prompt. Nice SSH for iOS.

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Post by danilocampos »

cparedes wrote: post #103
danilocampos wrote: post #66

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> There is way too much excitement over the simplest things ever. Simple things done well are among the most delightful discoveries I can make in my human existence. Have you ever had a perfect omelet? I mean, perfect? Fluffy, nice balance of tasty fillings, not overdone? I have. Maybe twice. Each time, it was wonderful . Wonderful for the fact that with just five ingredients, it created subtle, delicious flavors and…

Wait, what? ssh is simple . I suspect that the typical person needing to SSH into a box is already someone who knows how to operate in UNIX. Otherwise, you're using the wrong protocol.

It's not clear to me what you're objecting to.

This isn't a conversation about the simplicity (or not) of the SSH protocol, but rather a conversation on why it's exciting when good, simple tools like Prompt are created.

Re: Introducing Prompt. Nice SSH for iOS.

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Post by jws »

krakensden wrote: post #92
jws wrote: post #48

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It isn't the ssh protocol(mostly), it is the user interface. Mapping a physical keyboard and display onto a touchscreen/display involves tradeoffs. • The keyboard I am using right now is >50% larger than my entire iPad display. It won't fit even if I sacrifice the entire display to keyboard. • Will you overlay the keyboard on the character matrix? How do you know where to put it that you won't cover the part I'm tryi…

> really? I need to sort through 32 terminal emulators to use ssh on my Debian machine? Really? Unless you installed debian-minimal, and installed the gui piecemeal from there, your system came with a terminal emulator (gnome-terminal or kterm) in a nice menu, which will work perfectly as soon as you type 'ssh myserver.tld'. Besides, it's not like Prompt is the only terminal emulator/ssh client available on the app s…

Really? – yes.

Normally I go with the defaults, but on my netbook for linux work on the road I didn't want to lose a lot of screen real estate to menu bars and window ornaments. Honestly I was only using X because the dark blue on black text in some emacs coloration was illegible, but fixing the console to get dark blue far enough off of black to be legible eluded me.

I nearly got there with 'slim' and 'awesome' and one of the terminal emulators, but then when I needed to pop up gimp for the odd image fix it was unusable. (tiled window manager meets the legion of floating windows with strange ideas about window manager hinting.)

I hate to say it, but it wore me down. I relegated the netbook to machine room console duty, bought a lighter main laptop, and just use VirtualBox to run my portable linux machine. My laptop load is 50% lighter, and the virtual linux box is faster than the netbook anyway. A much better solution. (and dark blue on black is legible on this machine).

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