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Re: Drone firm DJI promises 'local data mode' to fend off US government's mooted ban

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Post by joshvm »

zaroth wrote: post #27

I have a DJI Mavic Mini and I was very impressed with the hardware and software overall. My kids and I have had a lot of fun flying this little drone! It does log every flight to the cloud, showing the telemetry logs of exactly where the drone flew and what it sent and received along the way (not full video, just telemetry). I find the logs extremely cool to look over after the fact when analyzing a flight. Their ins…

> Drones are a serious responsibility, and can be misused to cause a lot of damage, I'm totally willing to trade off some amount of tracking for the ability to have off-the-shelf access to this tech.

Depends how big your house is, but in the UK (in the US you're OK I think) you would probably be flying the drone illegally. Here unless you have prior permission, you're not supposed to fly a drone within 150m of a "built up area". For most people your house is out because your street is not controlled by you, even if you only fly in your garden. Parks also count as built up areas.

Re: Drone firm DJI promises 'local data mode' to fend off US government's mooted ban

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Post by leetcrew »

closetohome wrote: post #36
leetcrew wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

it should be of particular concern to drone hobbyists. perhaps things have changed since I got bored of flying drones, but I recall it being very hard to operate a drone completely legally. the rules I knew of were themselves a pain to follow; the worst was the requirement to notify every helipad within five miles or so. at the time, I could use airmap to get a list of numbers for all the helipads in my area, but the…

DJI in fact advertises the fact that they'll happily broadcast your information to law enforcement in realtime - https://www.dji.com/aeroscope It's a little scary.

I concede they are in a tough and uncertain spot with so much drone regulation still up in the air. still, it's always gross to see a company enthusiastically aiding the prosecution of its own customers.

Re: Drone firm DJI promises 'local data mode' to fend off US government's mooted ban

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Post by vkou »

libertine wrote: post #100
vkou wrote: post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Your SME will be about as successful at operating in a Chinese market, as a Croatian SME will be successful at operating in an American market. That is to say, you'd need a pretty exceptional product, that is significantly better then local alternatives to get anywhere, because you're not going to be able to compete on price, or on brand recognition. The reason Chinese SMEs are punching above their weight in foreign…

>Your SME will be about as successful at operating in a Chinese market, as a Croatian SME will be successful at operating in an American market Well I guess that's depends on your definition of "successful", no? Nothing stops a Croatian SME to enter the US market. >That is to say, you'd need a pretty exceptional product, that is significantly better then local alternatives to get anywhere, because you're not going to…

> Nothing stops a Croatian SME to enter the US market.

Then why aren't there any Croatian SMEs in the US market?

Is it because Croatians are bad at business? Bad at building things? Or do you think there may be other reasons for why they aren't successful?

> Even this is arguable because one of the biggest problems of Amazon US is the flood of low quality products, yet that doesn't stop them from being successful.

When you can't compete on quality, you have to compete on price.

Re: Drone firm DJI promises 'local data mode' to fend off US government's mooted ban

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Post by coldtea »

lacker wrote: post #70
coldtea wrote: post #44

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> Currently China wants all the perks of the open global market, while closing it's own. I don't understand how this is allowed. That's the same for the US. When it suits them there's sanctions, embargoes, tariffs, and questioning/forbiding foreign companies, investments, etc.

It isn’t the same at all. China routinely bans American internet companies for no apparent reason. Whereas the vast majority of Chinese companies are allowed to sell into the US. No other country operates like China does, with such drastic anti-foreign policies.

>It isn’t the same at all. China routinely bans American internet companies for no apparent reason.

The reason is the China from the start saw US as a competitor to China's companies (and internal sovereignity, as the US likes to push its political agendas to other nations).

China wasn't seen as a competitor by the US, but as it's outsourced cheap factory - so as they were just that, they were ok. Now that China's companies get increasingly competitive and aim for the global market themselves, the US tries to stop them in various ways from doing business in the US.

("National interests" is a good catch all reason for that, "humans rights" is another good excuse - though when you do business just fine with all kinds of other human rights violator states - not to mention violate human rights left and right yourself -, it's evidently just an excuse).

Same thing when Japan got on the rise and started buying US companies and investing there. There was all kind of nationalistic objections, and in the end they were pressured to sign the Plaza accord, that hurt them to this day.

Re: Drone firm DJI promises 'local data mode' to fend off US government's mooted ban

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Post by coldtea »

liability wrote: post #99
chloerei wrote: post #91

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Does your knowledge of Xinjiang and Tibet come from your own eyes, or from Western media propaganda?

I gleefully criticize my government. Do you dare publicly criticize yours?

It's easy to let people criticize when their criticism has no real impact, and they're gonna have to vote between the same two parties anyways...

The main difference is that the Chinese only have one party -- which means they don't have to pretend their votes matter which might even be seen as an improvement (at least honesty wise).

Re: Drone firm DJI promises 'local data mode' to fend off US government's mooted ban

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Post by omgbobbyg »

grecy wrote: post #47
alistairSH wrote: post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is that true for the larger drones? The Mini is light enough that it doesn't need approval to fly (in the US). The larger drones require approval to fly, which is often accomplished real-time within the control app. [I don't know if this is the case, just guessing/wondering if it is]

I think the app figures out where you are based on GPS co-ords and lets you fly or not. That's what my mavic mini appears to do when I fly it with no internet connection. It will even pop up warnings like "airport flight restriction nearby" and it does that with no internet...

Yeah it has internal GPS, works without WiFi and SIM and sets automatic height restrictions based on where you are. I live in Brooklyn near an LGA approach vector, surprisingly it tells me the maximum height is 150m, which still feels pretty high considering how low jets pass over on their way to LGA.
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