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Not to mention many of these OA journals were only created to scam researchers. They’d create a fake front and pretend they’re a prominent journal. Can’t recall them specifically but there were a few news clips about them a few years back.

Can people not try to make a scam out of everything??

One can be a tiny bit more charitable and say many of them provide a nearly worthless service (slapping your manuscript on their fly-by-night website) while misrepresenting themselves as providing a much more valuable service (peer review, dissemination to an audience that actually reads their journal, etc) and charging accordingly (thousands of dollars per manuscript).

Perhaps it's arguable whether that is to be called a scam, but certainly it is a rip-off.

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In the US, I believe the Library of Congress fills a similar role.

IIRC, some years back I read that the Library even had a full archive of all of Twitter, up to that date at least.

what a waste of disk space :)

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In France we have HAL: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyper_Articles_en_Ligne "Hyper Articles en Ligne, generally shortened to HAL, is an open archive where authors can deposit scholarly documents from all academic fields." I work at a university and I know library people and management check carefully that every paper we produce is deposited in HAL. Also: https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyper_articles_en_ligne "Depuis…

One major issue with HAL is that they accepted (under political/hierarchical pressure) to host only references without the actual paper PDF. So now its archive is filled with bibliographic references without any article archived paper.

It’s totally counter to its original purpose, and was implemented for researchers to be able to fulfill the internal CNRS mandate to list their paper on HAL without needing to actually host the paper there.

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French people using unknown french standards only, news at 20h00.

protocol and metadata in HAL follows OAI-PMH: Open Archives Initiative - Protocol Metadata Harvesting https://www.openarchives.org/pmh/ With a very long list of institutions following the same standard.

They simply have a compatibility layer with OAI-PMH it's disingenuous to present the list of Open Archives Initiative participants as somehow being related to the HAL project.

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In France we have HAL: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyper_Articles_en_Ligne "Hyper Articles en Ligne, generally shortened to HAL, is an open archive where authors can deposit scholarly documents from all academic fields." I work at a university and I know library people and management check carefully that every paper we produce is deposited in HAL. Also: https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyper_articles_en_ligne "Depuis…

Do you do bulk archival on your own will, i.e. without the authors having to ask and provide files?

For instance, there are about 140k works under a Creative Commons license (mostly free ones, some unfree) from French authors, most of which aren't preserved on any open archive. https://www.lens.org/lens/search/scholar/list?p=0&n=10&s=ref...

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I think there is a case to be made for a kind of "public utility" infrastructure for the distribution and storage of scholarly work given how 1. cheap it is, considering the size of the institutions that produce and benefit from them. 2. absurdly broken the private publishing industry has become.

See, for publishing: http://oad.simmons.edu/oadwiki/OA_journals_published_by_libr...

And for archival: https://www.lockss.org/

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> The authors defined a vanished journal as one that published at least one complete volume as immediate OA, and less than 50% of its content is now available for free online. Well, this exact definition could have some false positives, like a journal that publishes every third volume as complete open access and keeps the others behind a paywall. But I'm sure they were a bit more careful than it says here.

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Re: Dozens of scientific journals have vanished from the internet

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Publishers in general are very bad at preservation. Entire runs of journals often vanish because the publisher went bankrupt, sold some assets or just didn't bother to do their homework.

For this reason, customers (mostly libraries and universities) around year 2000 have started demanding that the closed-access publishers have preservation mechanisms and provide dark archives to ensure access after subscriptions expire or are otherwise breached.

This has resulted in initiatives like https://www.lockss.org/ and https://clockss.org/ .

> Since CLOCKSS launched in 2008, 53 journals comprising 13,000 articles have been triggered

That's 13k articles (mostly from closed-access publishers) saved from oblivion, but there's many more. The English Wikipedia alone knows thousands of articles where even the DOI is broken (usually they're from publishers like Elsevier, Wiley, T&F, LWW, OUP). https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Pages_with_DOIs_inact...

On average, fully open access journals present a much lower risk of vanishing because they're easier to archive, especially if they use a [free license](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_license) like CC BY or CC BY-SA. However, publishers still need some nudging towards archival.

DOAJ requires a digital preservation plan in place (at least with CLOCKSS, LOCKSS, PKP PN, PMC, Portico or a national library) for a journal to be granted the [DOAJ seal](https://doaj.org/publishers#seal). At the moment there are [about 1400 journals with the DOAJ seal](https://doaj.org/search?source=%7B%22query%22%3A%7B%22filter...).

Authors can publish in a journal with the DOAJ seal and be sure that their work is safe. On the other hand, they have no recourse against a commercial and closed-access publisher, which can be forced to comply with archival only by contracts with its paying subscribers.

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