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Does storing bread in the fridge make it last longer? (2019)

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Re: Does storing bread in the fridge make it last longer? (2019)

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Post by SirYandi »

gnicholas wrote: post #99

I live in Palo Alto and buy sourdough bread from Costco. If I don't put the loaves in the fridge immediately, they mold. Sometimes it happens in 36 hours, in an air-conditioned home, in an unopened bag. I don't know if this is specific to sourdough bread, but it is super frustrating because two Costco-sized loaves take up quite a bit of space in the fridge!

That's seems odd to me. I make sourdough at home without using any oil (article said oil makes bread last longer(?)) and find it goes dry long before molding occurs, if at all. Usually get a good 3-4 days before it's been hard to eat.

I keep mine in a cloth sack in the cupboard if it makes any difference.

Re: Does storing bread in the fridge make it last longer? (2019)

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Post by abdullahkhalids »

lostlogin wrote: post #82
washadjeffmad wrote: post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You've caught an important detail- that it molds once you've opened the bag- but only if you leave it there in after. Bread boxes are one of those relics that faded into obscurity after the mid-century in the US, often becoming homes to all the other things you didn't know what to do with on your counters, but they used to serve an important role in keeping bread fresh and protected. When we switched from formed doug…

The Chorleywood process which industrialised bread making is credited by some with destroying bread as a staple and replacing it with tasteless and nutrition free alternative. https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/lifeandstyl...

Non-amp link https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2008/apr/16/recipes...

Re: Does storing bread in the fridge make it last longer? (2019)

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Post by fanf2 »

Falkon1313 wrote: post #93
crazygringo wrote: post #24

The article's facts are right, but its conclusion is kinda wrong. Don't put your bread in the fridge -- slice it and put it in the freezer! Because in either case you need to heat it up in the oven/toaster anyways, so you might as well put it somewhere where it will keep for months, rather than weeks.

My sister froze bread, but it always came out soggy and gross from condensation. Maybe it was the type of freezers we have in the U.S., but whenever you thaw things there's going to be condensation and that doesn't work well with bread.

Thaw just the slices you need in the toaster until it is warm but not yet actual toast

Re: Does storing bread in the fridge make it last longer? (2019)

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Post by belorn »

Karunamon wrote: post #78
mumblemumble wrote: post #15

So, there's been a lot of reacting to this article on the level of bread preservation, and that's definitely some useful life knowledge, but don't miss the subtext: This article is using a debate about bread as the object of a lesson in the importance of precise communication. I've seen this argument happen before. It was once a source of much debate within my extended family. And, like the article describes, the bas…

Wouldn't it be better in the last case to use a different term that's less likely to be misunderstood/misinterpreted, especially in technical contexts that lack much of the cultural baggage that would prevent such a solution offline? So much miscommunication, wasted time, hurt feelings, etc could have been avoided if, say, GNU decided not to muddy the term "free".

Everything could be avoided if the democrats did not muddly the term "freedom" and simply let the definition be the same as liberty.

Through if we really want to find out whom to blame for ruining the word, it would be Thomas Hobbes and John Locke combined for not finding an agreement on the words definition.

Re: Does storing bread in the fridge make it last longer? (2019)

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Post by geerlingguy »

nxc18 wrote: post #68
hinkley wrote: post #48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

We didn’t have much money when I was a kid and we used the hell out of the deep freeze any time things were on sale. 3 for 2 offer on bread? Half a dozen loaves would come home with us and all but one went in the freezer. Now that we rarely go to the grocery store/order a delivery, I’m using the same trick. We almost got rid of in in the move but I kept it despite it being a temporary pain to deal with.

Works with bagels, too. Lots of ‘bakeries’ (think Panera) in the US have Tuesday deals, the one I have access to is 13 for $6.99 which brings the price per half to less than the cost of a slice of the cheapest store brand bread and with much better quality (still far worse than a real NYC bagel but better than the supermarket). They freeze and defrost very well.

I used to go to school by a Panera (St. Louis Bread Company where I'm from), and my schedule made it so I was often in there after some sports activity grabbing a light dinner around closing time.

I found out they often had a trash bag full of bagels they'd throw away if they didn't have a charity to give them to that day.

Since I was a frequent customer, I asked for a bag a few times over the course of four years. I froze about 50 bagels and gave the rest to friends, and I often had a nice toasted bagel free each morning :)

Re: Does storing bread in the fridge make it last longer? (2019)

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Post by mumblemumble »

Karunamon wrote: post #78
mumblemumble wrote: post #15

So, there's been a lot of reacting to this article on the level of bread preservation, and that's definitely some useful life knowledge, but don't miss the subtext: This article is using a debate about bread as the object of a lesson in the importance of precise communication. I've seen this argument happen before. It was once a source of much debate within my extended family. And, like the article describes, the bas…

Wouldn't it be better in the last case to use a different term that's less likely to be misunderstood/misinterpreted, especially in technical contexts that lack much of the cultural baggage that would prevent such a solution offline? So much miscommunication, wasted time, hurt feelings, etc could have been avoided if, say, GNU decided not to muddy the term "free".

Better? Perhaps.

Feasible? Not without first eliminating every trace of polysemy and connotation from the natural languages.

Re: Does storing bread in the fridge make it last longer? (2019)

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Post by mumblemumble »

zajio1am wrote: post #96
mumblemumble wrote: post #15

So, there's been a lot of reacting to this article on the level of bread preservation, and that's definitely some useful life knowledge, but don't miss the subtext: This article is using a debate about bread as the object of a lesson in the importance of precise communication. I've seen this argument happen before. It was once a source of much debate within my extended family. And, like the article describes, the bas…

> For example, open source and copyleft tend to be using different working definitions of "free" Not really. Both proponents of open source (OSI) and proponents of copyleft (FSF) use mostly interchangeable definitions of 'free'. Both copyleft (GPL) and permissive (e.g. BSD licences) are considered free by both sides.

The key word there is "mostly." There are details that differ, though, and that is where the devil creeps in.

It's not necessarily even in disagreeing about what practical things can and cannot justifiably be called freedoms. It's more in disagreeing about which ones are important to protect. Which, generally, when people talk about their freedoms, they're using the term as a shorthand for just the freedoms they think need protection.

Similarly, I think that both fridge and non-fridge people generally accept both staling and getting moldy as forms of spoilage. It's just that, either as a matter of practicality or as a matter of taste, one group is more preoccupied with staling, either because mold isn't a problem where they live ,or because they are more likely to consider stale bread to be inedible, or because loaves in their house rarely last long enough to mold, anyway. The other has different priorities, and will accept staling in return for a longer time before the bread actually becomes unsafe to eat. But all these subtleties are lost, taking important subtext in the debate with them, if you focus on the broad strokes definition of the word "last" instead of really paying attention to the details.

Re: Does storing bread in the fridge make it last longer? (2019)

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Post by justincormack »

nsxwolf wrote: post #52
washadjeffmad wrote: post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You've caught an important detail- that it molds once you've opened the bag- but only if you leave it there in after. Bread boxes are one of those relics that faded into obscurity after the mid-century in the US, often becoming homes to all the other things you didn't know what to do with on your counters, but they used to serve an important role in keeping bread fresh and protected. When we switched from formed doug…

I had bread boxes growing up, but I always remember them smelling strongly of mold. Maybe we were neglecting them and using them improperly, but I now have this association in my mind that a breadbox makes mold worse.

They mustn't be fully sealed.
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