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India bans PUBG, Baidu and more than 100 apps linked to China

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Re: India bans PUBG, Baidu and more than 100 apps linked to China

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Post by cooljacob204 »

searchableguy wrote: post #71
ffpip wrote: post #55

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> IT services Ads in default apps, user data collection and selling the said collected data.

> Ads in default apps, user data collection and selling the said collected data. That's almost everyone. Yesterday, I opened a brand new budget samsung phone. Despite not logging in anything and declining every box I could, it was automatically filled with invasive apps. It came with made in India sticker. At least with xiaomi, I can flash it with a custom rom and remove the bloatware. Many alternatives lock down the…

Yup, I bought an S8+ and after the terrible experience with bloatware and Bixby I have sworn off buying a Samsung phone again.

Over the past few years it has updated and installed new bloatware multiple times and even re-enabled Facebook background services.

Re: India bans PUBG, Baidu and more than 100 apps linked to China

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Post by sova »

jeswin wrote: post #31

What I wish India would do is this: force Chinese phone companies to ship stock Android and full source code. They sell hundreds of millions of phones in India and will have to find middle ground, and the outcome will be good for everyone.

Okay, source code, then what about chip schematics and everything on the hardware layer you can't audit for?

Re: India bans PUBG, Baidu and more than 100 apps linked to China

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Post by wtmt »

One thing I find amusing in this saga that's been playing out since the last few months is TikTok's reaction to being banned. When it was banned in India a couple of months ago, it didn't file any lawsuits claiming that it's not a threat to national security (though it has rejected such claims in the past). But when the U.S. announced a ban last month, TikTok sued the U.S. government "on the grounds that it was enacted without evidence and without any due process." [1]

I wonder what action these companies will take with this ban or what leverage China may try to use to de-escalate the situation.

[1]: https://techcrunch.com/2020/08/24/tiktok-sues-the-u-s-govern...

Re: India bans PUBG, Baidu and more than 100 apps linked to China

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Post by actuator »

newyankee wrote: post #94
ignoramous wrote: post #91

https://internetfreedom.in is doing important work in challenging the Indian government's surveillance and censorship apparatus. If you're passionate about this, consider donating to them and/or participating in the conversation. They're active, from time to time, on r/India as well. (not affiliated with them in anyway or form, but I do work on anti-censorship tech).

If you visit r/india do visit r/indiadiscussion as well to see how r/india bans anyone that does not go against their views. It is the most censored subreddit i have ever seen and likely a battleground of information warfare. I would just suggest third party persons reading both this and above post to visit and analyze it for themselves.

Yeah, as far as country subs go that is one of the most toxic ones.

I tried to use it for some travel advice but what I noticed was just sheer negativity and an echo chamber where any contrarian opinion is suppressed. I wonder if the irony of doing this and then complaining about suppression of dissent by the current establishment is lost on them.

Re: India bans PUBG, Baidu and more than 100 apps linked to China

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Post by shklnrj »

d3nj4l wrote: post #73
shklnrj wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is not related to any nationalism. Its the response of a sovereign nation in order to secure the data of its citizens which might face 'potential war with China'. Its logical. If you apply logic.

> This is not related to any nationalism. > Its the response of a sovereign nation in order to secure the data of its citizens which. That's... contradictory?

If a nation A attacks B, and nation B fights back for its cause, would would call the response of B to be 'nationalism'? Or just protecting sovereignty?

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Post by magicsmoke »

adventured wrote: post #81
jeswin wrote: post #31

What I wish India would do is this: force Chinese phone companies to ship stock Android and full source code. They sell hundreds of millions of phones in India and will have to find middle ground, and the outcome will be good for everyone.

I would like to see India start replacing inexpensive phones made in China with inexpensive phones made in India. In all cases it's better if India develops their own industry further such that they rely on China less. If they can make iPhones in India, they can certainly figure out how to build competitive, inexpensive phones to replace those made in China.

They manufacture iPhones in India, they don't design them there.

Re: India bans PUBG, Baidu and more than 100 apps linked to China

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Post by yorwba »

wtmt wrote: post #103

One thing I find amusing in this saga that's been playing out since the last few months is TikTok's reaction to being banned. When it was banned in India a couple of months ago, it didn't file any lawsuits claiming that it's not a threat to national security (though it has rejected such claims in the past). But when the U.S. announced a ban last month, TikTok sued the U.S. government "on the grounds that it was enact…

Are there any laws in India that would allow a banned company to sue the government?

Re: India bans PUBG, Baidu and more than 100 apps linked to China

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Post by throwaway4good »

wtmt wrote: post #103

One thing I find amusing in this saga that's been playing out since the last few months is TikTok's reaction to being banned. When it was banned in India a couple of months ago, it didn't file any lawsuits claiming that it's not a threat to national security (though it has rejected such claims in the past). But when the U.S. announced a ban last month, TikTok sued the U.S. government "on the grounds that it was enact…

Maybe it thinks such a lawsuit has a chance in the US but not in India.
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