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Re: Older men charged more for using Tinder's premium service

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Post by theredlion »

Udik wrote: post #82
ChuckNorris89 wrote: post #64

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There is no right/wrong here, Tinder is a business, not a public square or a public service, you choose willingly to use their service so they can charge whatever they want, nobody is forcing you to use it. Just like in a night club or country club, the house is free to set whichever memebership rules it wants, if you don't like them you are free to go somewhere else. Unlike the jobs market, the dating market and its…

So are you fine with a service that charges black people more? Or a private company that decides not to hire gays? They're both not public squares or services, right?

Not op, but I'll counter with the question: how do you feel about public universities discriminating based on race and sex, which they do

Re: Older men charged more for using Tinder's premium service

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Post by theredlion »

insickness wrote: post #86
gambiting wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Having too many men can impact the experience women have, and if they leave then the entire platform collapses. The cost to "host" a user is the same regardless of gender but platforms like these work only if the gender ratio is at least somewhat balanced - the fee seems to help with that, just like it does in a physical club(where it also doesn't cost any more to host a man than it does a woman).

Gay men are charged $8-13 while gay women are charged $7. Gay men and women aren't dating each other so this has nothing to do with gender imbalance.

Gay men can choose not to pay if they are unhappy with the price

Re: Older men charged more for using Tinder's premium service

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Post by theredlion »

WilTimSon wrote: post #51
nom wrote: post #46

Adjusting prices by demographic is so common in many industries. Charging less for children, families and the elderly is the same thing. Charging less for women in clubs. Same with booking hotels and flights, based on browsing history, IP address, cookies and the extrapolated demographic. Even a repair contractor adjusts his prices up for someone who lives in a mansion with expensive cars in the driveway, and down fo…

> "Nowhere on Tinder's website, privacy policy, or in its terms and conditions does the company say that it will charge you a different price based on your personal data," Choice's Erin Turner said. This is the key bit here. You go in expecting a level-ish playing field (it's not really level, obviously, but for other reasons.) Turns out that to even get access to the same service as young people, you have to pay 5 t…

> Dating when you're older is already difficult so making it even more difficult isn't exactly great.

Honestly 50 people have given this similar vibe. You people make it seem like someone has a gun to your head, forcing you to use a dating app. There are alternatives. It's a free market. If you don't like something, don't spend money on it.

Re: Older men charged more for using Tinder's premium service

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Post by gambiting »

theredlion wrote: post #102
insickness wrote: post #86

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Gay men are charged $8-13 while gay women are charged $7. Gay men and women aren't dating each other so this has nothing to do with gender imbalance.

Gay men can choose not to pay if they are unhappy with the price

Well yes, but at least in some places companies introducing different prices based on things like gender or race are not legal. Recently in the UK there was a case where a pub had a promotion where men paid more for drinks on the International Womens day, and someone took them to court over it and won - the court agreed that such pricing based in gender is not legal in the UK. On the other hand, clubs do this all the time without a fuss, but I suspect it's because no one challenged them legally on it yet.

In general I'm not a fan of the "gay people can just chose not to pay" argument - it sounds too similar to the one where some companies argued they should be allowed to deny gay people service, since they can simply go somewhere else.

Re: Older men charged more for using Tinder's premium service

#105

Post by hatedatingapps »

hatedatingapps wrote: post #99

I used to work for the third largest online dating company in the world, and we had a tedious 150 questions quiz even before user were allowed to login in the app. And guess what: this test was only used to define a pricing bucket for the user depending on their past dating experience, how desperate they are, location, device os and other factors. There were some psychology related questions and a decision tree to di…

And their whole business model was built around an idea to trick user into paying yearly subscription for the first year and then do whatever it takes to make them pay for the second year. Cancelling subscription was a quest itself, and given that couple of company's brands are targeting >50 years old people, it was relatively easy to scam them and not return the money

Re: Older men charged more for using Tinder's premium service

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Post by est31 »

Razengan wrote: post #84

Dating apps are probably one of the best examples of conflict of interest: Your purpose is to help people stop using your service! When money comes into play, you obviously don't want your users to leave. Honestly, at this point, who is to say that the good matches are not paid employees acting as real users, or that "ghosting" (ending matches or blocking messages) isn't forced by the service, to induce an addiction?…

> Dating apps are probably one of the best examples of conflict of interest: Your purpose is to help people stop using your service!

Most companies that offer some product are in this dilemma. You want to satisfy your customer's demands but not too much so that they come again. You could sell them a laundromat or fridge that lasts 40 years, but you rather sell them one that lasts 10 and welcome them back in your shop much sooner. Planned obsolescence basically.

Re: Older men charged more for using Tinder's premium service

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Post by [deleted] »

qshqwudhoquc wrote: post #26
skocznymroczny wrote: post #20

OKCupid also charges men, especially more than women for their premium service. It's common on online dating apps. Not much different than real life... in many clubs women can go inside for free while men have to pay entry ticket fee.

My issue with this is that these decisions aren't necessarily being made because of operating costs. It doesn't cost more to host a man than a woman.

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Re: Older men charged more for using Tinder's premium service

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Post by goldenManatee »

fimdomeio wrote: post #43
skocznymroczny wrote: post #20

OKCupid also charges men, especially more than women for their premium service. It's common on online dating apps. Not much different than real life... in many clubs women can go inside for free while men have to pay entry ticket fee.

The fact that is common doesn't make it right.

This practice only works if companies keep paying male workers more, since essentially this is getting males to pay for those services keeping the lights on. The beneficiaries probably won’t complain since they pay less, but charging guys more is an inherently sexist practice which only makes sense continuing in a world with sexist salary and compensation practices.

Re: Older men charged more for using Tinder's premium service

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Post by Fjolsvith »

ChuckNorris89 wrote: post #64
fimdomeio wrote: post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The fact that is common doesn't make it right.

There is no right/wrong here, Tinder is a business, not a public square or a public service, you choose willingly to use their service so they can charge whatever they want, nobody is forcing you to use it. Just like in a night club or country club, the house is free to set whichever memebership rules it wants, if you don't like them you are free to go somewhere else. Unlike the jobs market, the dating market and its…

So basically, if they get woke, they go broke.

Re: Older men charged more for using Tinder's premium service

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Post by Jestar342 »

theredlion wrote: post #101
Udik wrote: post #82

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So are you fine with a service that charges black people more? Or a private company that decides not to hire gays? They're both not public squares or services, right?

Not op, but I'll counter with the question: how do you feel about public universities discriminating based on race and sex, which they do

No op either, but negatively, too. Why on earth would think that that make it all ok?
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