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Hackers post fake stories on real news sites 'to discredit NATO'

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Re: Hackers post fake stories on real news sites 'to discredit NATO'

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Post by panzagl »

ChuckNorris89 wrote: post #59
HenryKissinger wrote: post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The flows of refugees from Syria to Turkey and Greece were largely due to the fallout of the Syrian Civil War, which the United States was neither responsible for starting, could not have prevented from starting, and could not have stopped once it began.

Most refugees in Germany and most of Europe come from Afghanistan and Iraq. Which nation(s) started the wars there?

Iraq started the Iraq war when it invaded Kuwait.

Al Qaeda started the Afghanistan war.

Re: Hackers post fake stories on real news sites 'to discredit NATO'

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Post by claydavisss »

bovermyer wrote: post #68
claydavisss wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Periodically you will find a "harumph!" post challenged instead of blindly upvoted, please do your homework

I'm not sure what you mean. Could you elaborate?

Your comment was a "drive-by"....you wanted to take a low-effort cheap shot and then squeal your tires without consequence. There's a site for that - reddit.

Re: Hackers post fake stories on real news sites 'to discredit NATO'

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Post by jessaustin »

kryogen1c wrote: post #2

why is the BBC calling NATO Nato? I had to internet search to figure out what they were talking about

Every time I see this affected, illiterate spelling I initially read it as "nattō", the smelly fermented bean preparation.

Re: Hackers post fake stories on real news sites 'to discredit NATO'

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Post by vmception »

HenryKissinger wrote: post #7
bovermyer wrote: post #5

Once the USA has a sane commander-in-chief again, it's going to need to completely overhaul its approach to the Eastern European region, among other things.

US policy toward NATO has been remarkably consistent, despite the confusing rhetoric from the commander-in-chief. The United States still refuses to recognize the Russian government's claim over Crimea, the Trump administration has continued selling arms, including lethal arms and armored vehicles, to the government of Ukraine, the United States conducted a cyberattack against Russia prior to the 2018 midterm electio…

I agree, I got a bank comfort letter from an Asian client using Sberbank, and found out that the entire bank is on OFAC list!

Russians use this bank like Americans use Venmo.

It just seems like low hanging fruit for a chummy head of state to deal with, because the sanction itself is so hurtful and broad to include the entire institution for over half a decade and never revisiting it.

It is balanced to separate the rhetoric of the head of state from the autonomous and distributed US agencies. Its clear the priorities from the president are self-protection, and the stuff with Russia is just enough to keep investments afloat, while pretty much everything else regarding US agencies and geopolitics is ignored. So all the drama stays at the top of DOJ, Fed, Treasury and what all the divisions do transcends administrations.

Re: Hackers post fake stories on real news sites 'to discredit NATO'

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Post by runarberg »

seventytwo wrote: post #26

Gee, I wonder what nation could possibly be behind this?

Why are you sure it is a nation. NATO is by no means an uncontroversial entity. Millions of peace activists—including my self—would love to see it abolished.

Although I do admit, the content of the fake news articles seem a little crude to be coming from peace activists. Personally I would post simple truthful anti-NATO, anti-military, and anti-nuclear weapons propaganda if I had the will to break into news web sites CMS.

EDIT: People are rallying against my anti-militarism. I don’t think there is a point arguing that, and such an argument is blatantly out of topic. Here we are discussing that I have a reason to doubt that a nation state is behind these attacks.

Re: Hackers post fake stories on real news sites 'to discredit NATO'

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Post by foepys »

ceilingcorner wrote: post #60
newacct583 wrote: post #45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Trump's plans to strengthen the eastern flank of NATO. Something Obama has been extremely weak on. I think you're going to need to start citing that, I'm not aware of any such plans. Certainly nothing that rises to the level of action (e.g. announcing the removal of a third of the US forces in Germany, as happened last week). This is just a whataboutist response. While there is criticism to be made everywhere about…

> Polish defence minister says the US will deploy 1,000 soldiers in Poland to oversee forces on NATO's eastern flank. https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2020/07/poland-deploy-1000-tr... The article even uses the term "NATO's eastern flank."

Get 12,000 soldiers home from Germany, deploy 1,000 in Poland and call it strengthening the eastern front.

That math doesn't check out at all.

Re: Hackers post fake stories on real news sites 'to discredit NATO'

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Post by shellac »

kryogen1c wrote: post #36
shellac wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's an initialism vs acronym thing: when the initials are treated as a word (e.g. NASA, but not BBC) you don't have to capitalise the whole thing (Hence 'Nasa' is ok). See https://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/collegeofjournalism/entries/8f7c... for an explanation.

> initialism vs acronym oh how interesting, ive never seen this debate before. I guess it confused because, internally, i dont treat acronyms as words. I dont think of NASA as Nasa or NATO as Nato, i find this counter-intuitive. to think out loud, this seems antithetical to what an acronym is in the first place. NASA is a pointer, not an object. creating a new object Nasa templated from the pointer NASA (not the obje…

It's language evolution, in part. 'Radar' and 'scuba' are famous examples which have become regular names. At some point all-caps started to look pedantic, I suppose, or odd because their origin was not familiar to people.

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Post by nemetroid »

hnarn wrote: post #52
vngzs wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/academy/en/articles/art201307021121335... > Use the abbreviated form of a title without explanation only if there is no chance of any misunderstanding (eg UN, Nato, IRA, BBC). Otherwise, spell it out in full at first reference, or introduce a label (eg the public sector union Unite). > > Where you would normally say the abbreviation as a string of letters - an initialism - use all capitals with…

The same rules applies in Swedish, so the correct way, in Swedish, is to write "Ikea".[1] [1]: http://www.isof.se/sprak/namn/samverkan-inom-namnvard-och-na...

On the topic of capitalization in Swedish, proper practice is to normalize everything.

E.g.: Eon instead of E.ON, Ebay instead of eBay, Iphone instead of iPhone.

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