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Re: Remote First at Quora

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I wonder what Quora’s staff spend their time on. The site is a simple Q&A app, and appears essentially unchanged the last many years and the content is all user generated. Not a huge productivity loss to go all-remote if you’re not productive in the first place ;)

> the content is all user generated

The answers - totally. The questions on the other hand, I'm not entirely convinced. The thought that Q&A has become the de-facto new generation of spam has crossed my mind many times while browsing the web.

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#102
post #10

Working remotely has a very high cost, but it only gets visible in the long term. Working from home isolates you. There is no way around this. You lose the one huge opportunity in adult life for making new relationships - and that's at work, in the office. For the company, people that work remote start drifting away from the company vision and spirit - you get an army of people working individually most of the time,…

> You lose the one huge opportunity in adult life for making new relationships - and that's at work, in the office.

If your only opportunity to make friends is at work, that's a really bad situation and it should be a very high priority in your life to fix it. Get a hobby! Find a shared interest to bond over. Go on dates.

Work should not be your primary source of community.

Re: Remote First at Quora

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post #10

Working remotely has a very high cost, but it only gets visible in the long term. Working from home isolates you. There is no way around this. You lose the one huge opportunity in adult life for making new relationships - and that's at work, in the office. For the company, people that work remote start drifting away from the company vision and spirit - you get an army of people working individually most of the time,…

> I have some friend who have been working at a company who went remote-first and after 5 years they do not feel identified with the company anymore. It's just a job. You could work for someone else and you wouldn't even notice.

You mean they think of their job how it should be thought of?

Re: Remote First at Quora

#104
post #59

I wonder what Quora’s staff spend their time on. The site is a simple Q&A app, and appears essentially unchanged the last many years and the content is all user generated. Not a huge productivity loss to go all-remote if you’re not productive in the first place ;)

They are an advertising company

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#105
post #10

Working remotely has a very high cost, but it only gets visible in the long term. Working from home isolates you. There is no way around this. You lose the one huge opportunity in adult life for making new relationships - and that's at work, in the office. For the company, people that work remote start drifting away from the company vision and spirit - you get an army of people working individually most of the time,…

> You lose the one huge opportunity in adult life for making new relationships - and that's at work, in the office. I don't really understand this. While I like my colleagues, they're just that - co-workers. I'm never really been interested in socialising with them outside of the workplace. I've moved to a new country and the way I've found friends (without even putting much effort into it) was through activities and…

Yeah, this blows my mind as well. Believe it or not, people are actually able to make meaningful friendships outside of work. For example, I got into whitewater kayaking after about two years into my career (software) at age 27. It's an activity that requires groups of people to work together. You need multiple people to run vehicle shuttles up/down the river, and you also need multiple people for safety on the river. I've been doing this activity for a few years now, and through it I have formed some of the deepest relationships I've ever had. I hang out with these people every week often on weeknights after work. One of the good friends I met through this activity even got ordained and married my wife and I!

My point is that kayaking is just one means of meeting people and forming relationships. The idea that an office is one of our only opportunities to make relationships is just absurd. My experience with relationships in office is that most of the time they are very hollow and superficial. Also, if most of your relationships come from the office and your career, you are limiting yourself to a narrower field of ideas. If the main people you hang around are managers and software developers, then you are going to miss out on a lot of other viewpoints. Through kayaking, I've made close friends with people from all walks of life. We were out to eat one night at a restaurant, and at our table sat a plumber, a realtor, an orthopedic surgeon, an electrical engineer, and an FBI agent!

Re: Remote First at Quora

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I have some friend who have been working at a company who went remote-first and after 5 years they do not feel identified with the company anymore. It's just a job. You could work for someone else and you wouldn't even notice. I think feeling “identified with your company” is kind of pathological. If remote work gets more people to realise it’s just a job, it’s not their company, and they shouldn’t work themselves…

I may be wrong, but I think what was meant is a feeling of belonging to a community and a feeling of togetherness.

A company isn’t a community. You don’t belong to it and the togetherness only lasts as long as your boss says it will. Ultimately it’s in the company‘s best interest to try and get more value out of you than they pay you for, if they think they can do that by fostering a feeling of togetherness then they will, but it’s not, you know... real.

e: and the parent of this chain is a CEO. Three guesses as to why he finds it a negative that an employee doesn’t really care who they work for.

Re: Remote First at Quora

#107
post #10

Working remotely has a very high cost, but it only gets visible in the long term. Working from home isolates you. There is no way around this. You lose the one huge opportunity in adult life for making new relationships - and that's at work, in the office. For the company, people that work remote start drifting away from the company vision and spirit - you get an army of people working individually most of the time,…

I've been curious about the demographics of people who oppose remote work vs those who are for it. At least from my industry (Software), my guess is that those who are for it are developers and those that are against it are going to be more of the managerial type. My manager is late in her career and has opposed the concept of allowing full-remote work after post-covid in a very strong way. I think now that all of the workers are not physically in the office, she feels like she has less purpose.

I was curious what the OP's job role was to see if this thought lines up at all. I click on his profile and he is a CEO.

Re: Remote First at Quora

#108
post #10

Working remotely has a very high cost, but it only gets visible in the long term. Working from home isolates you. There is no way around this. You lose the one huge opportunity in adult life for making new relationships - and that's at work, in the office. For the company, people that work remote start drifting away from the company vision and spirit - you get an army of people working individually most of the time,…

> You lose the one huge opportunity in adult life for making new relationships - and that's at work, in the office.

This is a perspective of very work-centric lifestyle. That's not for everybody.

Ditto for city life. I live in a city for my career. Now that remote work is more normal, I can live the life I actually want.

Re: Remote First at Quora

#109
post #10

Working remotely has a very high cost, but it only gets visible in the long term. Working from home isolates you. There is no way around this. You lose the one huge opportunity in adult life for making new relationships - and that's at work, in the office. For the company, people that work remote start drifting away from the company vision and spirit - you get an army of people working individually most of the time,…

Coffee shops were created as places to socialize. As they turned to places of work in the past decade ... the office i guess was turned to the last place where random socialization was socially acceptable.

Neither of these conditions is unavoidable, it's all about the social convention. I guess if WFH goes on for long enough, people will change their social expectations.

> after 5 years they do not feel identified with the company anymore

Yeah, freedom has a price, but it's tangible, a remote workforce will be closer to gig workers, which does allow them to jump ship easier for better pay, but also ends the idea of a business as "being a family" (which is mostly a false illusion anyway).

Re: Remote First at Quora

#110
post #74

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Insert obligatory warning about timezones here. Seriously, I've been working with the US west coast for most t of the last decade (i'm in Europe) and its reall realluy hard because of timezones.

So companies offshore north-south instead of east-west, I don't want to compete with Latin American or African salaries any more than Asia.

It's not that easy tbh. Languages are also important.

Like I guess Brazil and Argentina would work, but you'll essentially just cause wages to equalise over time.

This will happen to some extent, but it's much more likely that US software engineers pay will normalise first.

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