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‘Strong Opinions, Weakly Held’ Doesn't Work That Well

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Re: ‘Strong Opinions, Weakly Held’ Doesn't Work That Well

#101

My take on "strong opinions, weakly held:" It's about combating your own confirmation bias by being willing to do the work of re-examining your conclusions in the light of new evidence. It's hard to do b/c we get emotionally invested, and also because once you make a conclusion an assumption, it becomes implicit & fades into the background -- so it's harder to question. On the flip side, it's also about trusting your…

Honestly I DON'T trust my own reasoning. I can do this adversarial process as described in this article on my own, but that's incomplete. People outside of me have information and ways to view things that I don't. Others work as a discriminator and you update your opinions and views as more information comes in and challenges your own ideas. But it is because I don't trust my own reasoning that I read textbooks, seek…

> Honestly I DON'T trust my own reasoning.

I have this and it's a real problem for software development because everyone expects a senior to be gung-ho about their solutions and perfectly confident. Whereas I'm always asking for second and third opinions about things and people (largely management but occasionally other developers) view that negatively.

Re: ‘Strong Opinions, Weakly Held’ Doesn't Work That Well

#102

> this is not how the human brain works To some extent, to succeed in the modern world, you have to override your instincts with a thought-out response to things. Whatever heuristics we've built up over thousands of years are interesting, but some of them don't apply anymore. (If you were a prehistoric human and you encountered a beehive, you'd eat all the honey. But now you can get hundreds of beehives worth of hone…

I agree, but that doesn't make the "old data" problem go away.

It's worth noticing that in the first part (Paul Saffo forecasting), the problem is all in one head. Saffo recognizes an unintuitive methodology: strong opinions weakly held. He's only really dealing with himself, his intuitions, tactics that work for him.

The second part gets social:

"you’ve decided, along with your boss, to build a particular type of product for a particular subsection of the self-service checkout market."

This is a good example, imo. These decisions are made with imperfect information, and they incorporate a lot of interlocking opinions. Ex ante can only get you so far. You need to make a decision and start rowing to progress, change paths when necessary.

Multiple people are involved. Credibility is on the line, among many subtle subroutines of group psychology that we aren't even aware of. The solution from Tetlock, express your opinion as a probability, is a solution to the problem in its group form. When people are in meetings making big decisions, a lot more than the big decisions is going on. Human power dynamics are taking place. Being right can play a very small role in these.

I think the author has a blindspot. "This is not how the human brain works" is one kind of challenge. "This is not how human groups work" is another. It isn't a derivative of the first.

Re: ‘Strong Opinions, Weakly Held’ Doesn't Work That Well

#103

tl;dr: it doesn't work that well because it's difficult. To be honest this feels a bit to me like saying that cryptography doesn't work that well because it's difficult. The article itself even has examples of people for which it has worked well (eg Steve Jobs). I recognize the argument that there's people who don't realize that they're bad at and still quote the "strongly opinions, weakly held" idea, but that means…

> To be honest this feels a bit to me like saying that cryptography doesn't work that well because it's difficult. The article itself even has examples of people for which it has worked well (eg Steve Jobs).

No, the article specifically does not say that. It says the principle doesn't generalise well across people, for exactly the same reason cryptography doesn't. We have "don't roll your own crypto"; this article is the equivalent for "strong opinions weakly held".

Re: ‘Strong Opinions, Weakly Held’ Doesn't Work That Well

#104

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Honestly I DON'T trust my own reasoning. I can do this adversarial process as described in this article on my own, but that's incomplete. People outside of me have information and ways to view things that I don't. Others work as a discriminator and you update your opinions and views as more information comes in and challenges your own ideas. But it is because I don't trust my own reasoning that I read textbooks, seek…

> Honestly I DON'T trust my own reasoning. I have this and it's a real problem for software development because everyone expects a senior to be gung-ho about their solutions and perfectly confident. Whereas I'm always asking for second and third opinions about things and people (largely management but occasionally other developers) view that negatively.

Baseline political paradox - humans demand extraverted confidence from leaders more than they demand competence.

If you're confident you can make mistake after mistake and no one will care unless everything comes crashing down - and even then there's a fair chance you can make it someone else's fault.

If you're merely very competent, taking time to research good solutions looks like indecision, not leadership, even if the results are far better.

Re: ‘Strong Opinions, Weakly Held’ Doesn't Work That Well

#105
For me the „strong opinion weakly held“ is a way of mental prototyping:

> Allow your intuition to guide you to a conclusion, no matter how imperfect — this is the “strong opinion” part. Then – and this is the “weakly held” part – prove yourself wrong. Engage in creative doubt. Look for information that doesn’t fit, or indicators that pointing in an entirely different direction. Eventually your intuition will kick in and a new hypothesis will emerge out of the rubble, ready to be ruthlessly torn apart once again. You will be surprised by how quickly the sequence of faulty forecasts will deliver you to a useful result.

The author of the blog post however finds failure with it for guiding investments gradually, it failing when new information is discovered along the way. But that isn‘t the purpose, to guide one in small day to day adjustments. The purpose is to explore a not well known landscape for strategic decision making. To gather enough solid non trivial insight to make a well founded strategic decision. There are better tools for operational management once one has committed to a direction.

Strong opinions help me often to escape analysis paralysis. It also helps me to surface my premature judgements and transcend them.

Re: ‘Strong Opinions, Weakly Held’ Doesn't Work That Well

#106
There is a sort of financial epistemology that a lot of people like because it tells them they are successful and therefore right. It also allows them to talk about testing hypotheses and get results in hard numbers. And it even works as far as it does, but I’m more and more skeptical that it explains everything.

Re: ‘Strong Opinions, Weakly Held’ Doesn't Work That Well

#107
post #66

> It is quite difficult for the human mind to vacillate between one strong opinion to another The author has apparently never met someone on the autistic spectrum with ADHD and who has enough life experience to know how to be wrong gracefully.

Not sure what you're getting at here, but this sounds like a rare occurrence i.e. difficult

You are obviously completely wrong. But on the other hand...

Re: ‘Strong Opinions, Weakly Held’ Doesn't Work That Well

#108
Of course, "strong opinions weakly held" is a refactoring of the scientific approach to knowledge. Karl Popper taught that scientific hypotheses necessarily must be disprovable. Hypotheses that aren't disprovable (falsifiable) are useless in science.

Insisting on falsifiable hypotheses is a difficult personal discipline, not to mention collective discipline. "Nothing is true unless it might be false!" Wait, what? How can a company make decisions based on that sort of epistemology? How can a government set policy? It's much easier to make decisions when we have the illusion we're sure about the facts.

Maybe the only sensible path is to hold all our opinions, personal and group, lightly.

Re: ‘Strong Opinions, Weakly Held’ Doesn't Work That Well

#109
> “Why does the framework not work very well?“

Framework? That’s just silly. It’s a turn of phrase that helps you change your attitude or approach a problem from a new direction.

“If at first you don’t succeed...” I suck. I’m never going to try again! Haha.

I didn’t know the origin of the phrase, and that’s a testament to its creativity.

As a life long learner, I found it useful in ways not related to the origin story. It helps me to overcome imposter syndrome.

I know a little bit about a lot of things, and a lot about a very few things. And I love solving problems with design thinking. Go for it. Feel confident about your knowledge if you have done the work, but know there are others who know more.

All that gets nicely summarized by Strong opinions, weakly held.

Re: ‘Strong Opinions, Weakly Held’ Doesn't Work That Well

#110

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Honestly I DON'T trust my own reasoning. I can do this adversarial process as described in this article on my own, but that's incomplete. People outside of me have information and ways to view things that I don't. Others work as a discriminator and you update your opinions and views as more information comes in and challenges your own ideas. But it is because I don't trust my own reasoning that I read textbooks, seek…

> Honestly I DON'T trust my own reasoning. I have this and it's a real problem for software development because everyone expects a senior to be gung-ho about their solutions and perfectly confident. Whereas I'm always asking for second and third opinions about things and people (largely management but occasionally other developers) view that negatively.

I think this might be due to a difference in optics. What you see as 'asking for a second or third opinion' might be seen by others as lack of independence, leadership and ownership.

Mostly everywhere senior developers are expected to self-manage and make difficult decisions on their own, unprompted, and just present working solutions to the business. It's okay to take time on this - solving it on your own, consulting literature, peers, etc. But looping in management into technical decision making might make you look like you can't make decisions on your own, or need micromanagement. Management, business and product care about things being done - not technical approaches or having to choose between multiple solutions.

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