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OpenAI should now change their name to ClosedAI
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Re: OpenAI should now change their name to ClosedAI
#102It's inevitable that AI research will be more and more closed. AI is a weapon which is potentially much more dangerous than nuclear. It's naive to think that the most dangerous weapon will be accessible to a general public.
AI is dangerous when it is closed and inaccesseble to majority of people.
Lets take deepfake. If it was closed and inaccessible to majority of people it could be used as a powerful weapon (making influence on politics, etc). Now when everyone has access to it and aware that that kind of fakes is not hard to make, it is not a weapon anymore. Of course you can still use it as a weapon, especially in not well developed countries, but even there after some time it will become useless as a weapon too. I think person who made deepfake saved many people lives and that is the best approach to deal with so called "danger of AI".
Re: OpenAI should now change their name to ClosedAI
#103Earlier quoted context omitted.
Non-profit does not mean “spends money in perpetuity with no revenue.”
that's not what happened with OpenAI though. They're not a non-profit anymore, they changed to a "controlled profit" (lol) model. I didn't know this was even possible/legal. Start as a non-profit for all the tax advantages and convert to for-profit once you've got a saleable product? Maybe startups should start doing this
I thought it was capped profit not controlled.
Re: OpenAI should now change their name to ClosedAI
#104Earlier quoted context omitted.
One obvious example would be to fully automate social engineering email scams. Imagine how much disruption it would cause if spearphishing became as common as robocalls have become post-automation.
If it became that common it would quickly cease to be that effective. Spearfishing works because it's rare, so it doesn't automatically set off your bullshit detector. Most people don't fall for "cheap vi@gra" emails anymore. Social engineering in general is effective because it's rare enough that people don't feel the need to develop policies and strategies for preventing it.
Sure, but there's no reason to expect the required strategies to be non-disruptive. It's now impossible for anyone not on my contact list to call me, because I won't pick up or listen to their messages - it'd be a tragedy if email became similarly locked down.
Re: OpenAI should now change their name to ClosedAI
#105There's always OpenCog: https://github.com/opencog
Now is an especially good time to join the OpenCog project. Ben and the folks behind it are just now starting a big push to re-architect big chunks of it, including the AtomSpace. And OpenCogCon was just held as a two day virtual conference, and the entire thing is available on Youtube. I'd encourage anyone who's interested to join the Opencog Slack and/or Google group and check out what's going on.
Re: OpenAI should now change their name to ClosedAI
#106Earlier quoted context omitted.
From the gpt2 code release[1]: > We are still considering release of the larger models. Is there something I'm missing? 1. https://github.com/openai/gpt-2
That part of the Readme seems to be out of date, they released the largest GPT-2 model last year https://www.openai.com/blog/gpt-2-1-5b-release/
full reference: https://opencog.org/2020/07/virtual-opencogcon-july-15-16/
Re: OpenAI should now change their name to ClosedAI
#107Earlier quoted context omitted.
"OpenAI is governed by the board of OpenAI Nonprofit, which consists of OpenAI LP employees Greg Brockman (Chairman & CTO), Ilya Sutskever (Chief Scientist), and Sam Altman (CEO), and non-employees Adam D’Angelo, Holden Karnofsky, Reid Hoffman, Shivon Zilis, and Tasha McCauley." https://openai.com/blog/openai-lp/
The NFL is also managed by a non-profit. Just because you're managed by a non-profit doesn't mean your company is also a non-profit.
The NFL is a (nonprofit) trade association for NFL team companies.
Re: OpenAI should now change their name to ClosedAI
#108Earlier quoted context omitted.
> "This AI stuff is dangerous to world" Replace "AI" with "fire" and it sounds even more ridiculous as a reason.
Fire is dangerous though. Fire gut-punched California three summers running. The power company cut power to whole regions out of respect for fire.
Not because the wrong people made fire the wrong way. Because fire is unpreventable and people didn't do fireproofing properly.
Re: OpenAI should now change their name to ClosedAI
#109I believe, having worked a little bit with GPT-2, that OpenAI is intentionally sabotaging access to their AI algorithm and data. They have started this sabotage with GPT-2 and with GPT-3 they simply didn't open source it. For GPT-2, their repository ( https://github.com/openai/gpt-2 ) is archived. Which is as good as saying that the project is abandoned and will receive no updates. The project already doesn't compile…
> Oh, and by the way, I believe saying "This AI stuff is dangerous to world", the same as politicians saying "We need to check your web history for pedophilia stuff". It's funny how some people don't see the irony in how they oppose one thing and support another that is practically the same. Some AI/ML applications are clearly dangerous to the world. See other HN comment sections when facial recognition comes up.
So, let me start by saying, facial recognition is absolutely dangerous.
But I'm not seeing anything meaningful being done about this. Some companies are refusing to sell AI to the government, but some, such as ClearView, are openly selling to any government including ones that will use it to hunt down gays or protestors. This cat is out of the bag. Even if comprehensive legislation is passed in the US which limits facial recognition use to law enforcement with a warrant, US law enforcement has repeatedly shown themselves to be above the law, with numerous loopholes to get around warrants. And that only affects the US. China, for example, will have no such compunctions.
Having facial recognition closed source doesn't do anything to prevent bad actors from using it to do harm. It simply means that only those with enough money to buy licenses get to use it--governments and corporations who have repeatedly shown themselves to be the bad guys when it comes to privacy.
The only difference if this is open source is that it puts this power in the hands of people with average incomes, and there are a lot of cases where this could be a good thing. We have seen, for example, pictures taken of police officers hiding their badge numbers illegally at protests in the past few weeks--facial recognition could help unmask these bad apples.
Re: OpenAI should now change their name to ClosedAI
#110Someone asked for a more nuanced perspective, so here we go. For a lot of AI researchers, OpenAI has been a huge disappointment. We had hope that OpenAI would be the company to democratize AI with good open source work, transparency, no PR bullshit (aka DeepMind), and evangelism. That they would develop in the open, and perhaps even do research in the open. You know, kind of like the name says. It all started out oka…
Hugging face and the Spacy team have done some incredible work. Huge fan of both for my NLP projects.
Are they doing any notable research at all?