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Re: Skype 5 for Mac

#101
As a dev with a remote team, Skype 5 is probably my most-used desktop application on OS X, besides my IDE.

The other day, after upgrading, I could not for the life of me figure out how to bring up the number key pad while on a voice call. I needed to "press 1 for X", but I couldn't do it. This used to be easy in Old Skype.

If a power user like myself can't figure something out, chances are it's too difficult or hidden for casual users too.

Re: Skype 5 for Mac

#102
post #64

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Why are the most essential programs in life the ones that always have the most obscenely bloated updates?

The only reason iTunes seems to be essential is because there is almost no competition on OSX. Its a fairly horrible music player / media organizer compared to most Windows based software. I only use Skype to video chat with my daughters and it could be easily swapped over to Google chat + Video.

> Its a fairly horrible music player / media organizer compared to most Windows based software.

Y'know people like to say this, but I think it's simply untrue. MediaMonkey/Winamp/Songbird/Media Jukebox/FooBar all have the advange they're more flexible & have greater format support, but for simply listing and playing and managing your music, iTunes is far nicer.

All music managers are horrible to some extent, I am left wondering why.

Re: Skype 5 for Mac

#104

Great, now they just need to update the Linux client to 2.2 and we are all settled! Seriously though, Skype has shown they don't give a crap about their Linux users.

Surely they'll release 2.1 first; it's still beta, for the last 2 years AFAICT.

http://www.skype.com/intl/en-us/get-skype/on-your-computer/l...

>"Skype 2.1 Beta 2 for Linux > >We're excited to announce a new beta version for Linux, with extra features and better sound and video quality ..."

Re: Skype 5 for Mac

#105

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I have been unable to find an alternative that allows me, a Mac user, to do a video chat with my girlfriend, a Windows user, with no fuss when both of us are behind separate NATs.

Not even AIM? I find that hard to believe

What is this AIM thing you mention?

// The rest of the world never really used AIM. Certainly here in Australia it was ICQ and then MSN (and now facebook) for chat.

Skype has always been the VOIP / Video Chat service of choice..

Re: Skype 5 for Mac

#106
post #72

I remember when Apple released FaceTime, they said it'd be an open industry standard. See: http://www.appleinsider.com/articles/10/06/07/apple_announce... and http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9177819/Jobs_has_loft... Seems striking that it's been nearly a year and we haven't heard a peep about making it open. I would presume that if it were, it could be possible to bridge the two protocols or eliminate the need…

I just did some searching around to confirm this, because I had thought Apple released the spec back when they announced it, but you're right. Not a peep. It sort of behooves them to release it... it would build support for FaceTime, which would make their phones more useful. But it seems pretty certain they don't want other phones to be able to check that FaceTime box on their marketing materials just yet. I know be…

They'll release it in two years but it's going to be the best spec ever written for a mobile device. Just wait til Gruber sees the indentation in the sample code.

Re: Skype 5 for Mac

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post #64

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The only reason iTunes seems to be essential is because there is almost no competition on OSX. Its a fairly horrible music player / media organizer compared to most Windows based software. I only use Skype to video chat with my daughters and it could be easily swapped over to Google chat + Video.

I'm not talking about just iTunes and Skype, though. I can think of several consumer programs that have become more bloated with worse UIs over time- AIM, Ad-Aware, Windows Media Player, Firefox... It seems rather inevitable.

What do you dislike about Firefox's UI? I could never go back from Firefox 4 to Firefox 2 or 3.

Re: Skype 5 for Mac

#108

Skype has noticed that there is a discrepancy in quality between the two versions, and has decided to make the two versions more similar to each other. Unfortunately, instead of making the Windows version of Skype better, they’ve decided to fix the discrepancy by making the Mac version of Skype more like the Windows version. This is the number one reason that I prefer Mac-only products to products that are available…

or if it's an attempt to save money by having a single code base (or both?)

From what I recall, Skype's Windows UI is actually written in Delphi - maybe that has changed now, but I think don't they actually have a unified code base for the user interface.

Re: Skype 5 for Mac

#109

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What's missing from skype that isnt provided by AIM or GTalk? Is it the ability to make phone calls?

I have been unable to find an alternative that allows me, a Mac user, to do a video chat with my girlfriend, a Windows user, with no fuss when both of us are behind separate NATs.

Have you tried gtalk on Chrome?

Seems to work everywhere that has an OS Recognized camera and mic. I've talked with people on linux, and windows, from my OS 10.6 machine.

Re: Skype 5 for Mac

#110

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm not talking about just iTunes and Skype, though. I can think of several consumer programs that have become more bloated with worse UIs over time- AIM, Ad-Aware, Windows Media Player, Firefox... It seems rather inevitable.

What do you dislike about Firefox's UI? I could never go back from Firefox 4 to Firefox 2 or 3.

The windows ui got a bit worse(no menubar by default right)
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