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App suddenly crashing on startup due to FBSDKRestrictiveDataFilterManager.m

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Re: App suddenly crashing on startup due to FBSDKRestrictiveDataFilterManager.m

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Post by moolcool »

wccrawford wrote: post #86
beagle3 wrote: post #64

Waze, a google owned app for the past 4 years, crashes because of the FB app. WhatsApp, a Facebook owned app, will not give you read access to your own chat database - it’s encrypted. But they have an arrangement with Google where it’s will back up unencrypted to your Google account (though, Google won’t let you retrieve it ... only the WhatsApp app can) Everything about this duopoly, their cooperation and lack of co…

I'm pretty sure that's the same agreement that every developer has with Google just by writing an android app and using Google APIs. You can store data on Google Drive that isn't accessible from Google Drive and only that app can read or write it.

Is that a GDPR violation?

Re: App suddenly crashing on startup due to FBSDKRestrictiveDataFilterManager.m

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Post by bsenftner »

akmarinov wrote: post #55
harryf wrote: post #53

Earlier quoted context omitted.

... so if the app including the SDK has permission to access location data, the SDK could be passing that location data to Facebook?

Not only could it do that, but it also totally does do that

The fact that we as in industry and we as citizens of free nations do not end these operations, terminate their corporate charters and throw the responsible in jail is indicator #1 that freedom (not the GOP free-dumb) as we know it is in it's death rattle.

Re: App suddenly crashing on startup due to FBSDKRestrictiveDataFilterManager.m

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Post by Nextgrid »

potench wrote: post #82
chancemehmu wrote: post #45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is not true.

Are you sure? Seem to recall needing FB SDK to manage marketing pixels that provide detail on marketing campaign analytics. If you’re spending money on those platforms to drive traffic you’re going to want to optimize your spend and see performance. To do that I believe you need the FB sdk - are you saying there’s an alternative or are you saying “just don’t optimize performance”.

Can't you optimize ad performance by generating unique URLs for each campaign and then counting the number of clicks/installs per campaign on your own infrastructure?

Re: App suddenly crashing on startup due to FBSDKRestrictiveDataFilterManager.m

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Post by delfinom »

tannhaeuser wrote: post #62
krtkush wrote: post #23

Given how protective Apple is about the experience of apps on the App Store and this happening the second time, I'm surprised they have not come up with a way to prevent this from happening. Also, a monolithic SDK should not exist in this day and age.

Indeed, and if the FB SDK (as used by the Spotify app among others) does in fact call home, it might violate Apple's TOS and give rise to rejecting those apps on the App Store. I'm not up to date with Apple's policies, but wasn't Apple specifically rejecting apps that seek to establish a platform within Apple's platform? Now if Apple are going to play hardball on this one is another question alltogether.

It's a money game and Apple could totally crack down it, but they won't. They may long term but they take cowardly slow steps like everyone else does.

Re: App suddenly crashing on startup due to FBSDKRestrictiveDataFilterManager.m

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Post by Ianvdl »

riyadparvez wrote: post #88
jgeada wrote: post #73

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I use an app called AdBlock https://apps.apple.com/app/apple-store/id691121579?pt=425087... It creates a local VPN that sets up a local filtering DNS. I just added the following domains to the block list: facebook.com fbcdn.com fbcdn.net fbsbx.com fb.com

That's very interesting. Does Android have anything similar?

I used to use NoRoot Firewall [0], which worked similarly, and allowed you to block per-application.

[0] https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=app.greyshirts...

Re: App suddenly crashing on startup due to FBSDKRestrictiveDataFilterManager.m

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Post by rimliu »

I cannot take anything Facebook does (at least on iOS) seriously since the day they were bragging (with straight faces) about having so many classes that Xcode could not cope with them. And IIRC, lots of them were auto-generated and never pruned.

Re: App suddenly crashing on startup due to FBSDKRestrictiveDataFilterManager.m

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Post by delfinom »

akmarinov wrote: post #68
Nextgrid wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You can implement OAuth entirely server-side without any client support beyond displaying a web view. No need to include spyware and the approach is reusable for any OAuth provider.

You can’t, it’s against their policy, if they catch you they’ll revoke your access. developers.facebook.com/policy/ 8.2 (which states “Native IOS and Android apps that implement Facebook Login must use our official SDKs for login.” This has a help icon next to it that opens a dialog on their site that shows a couple pictures and then explains “Android apps should use the default login behavior defined by the SDK, whi…

You understand the subtext here right? They literally want you to install their malware on users devices so you can use their SSO. That's the entire ploy. It's how they ensure their malware spreads.
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