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Re: Dell XPS 13 Developer Edition with Ubuntu 20.04 LTS pre-installed

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Post by robert_foss »

zozbot234 wrote: post #95
robert_foss wrote: post #59

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The Ubuntu version is released soo many months after the main version. It really sucks having to wait that long. And to be limited to the XPS 13.

It takes some time to get full support for the very newest hardware in Linux. This is nothing new. And it's why buying a previous-gen model at a discount can be a better deal overall.

I just run whatever the latest Ubuntu version is at the time of release for my XPS machines, and it works fine. Or at least no worse than Ubuntu normally works.

Re: Dell XPS 13 Developer Edition with Ubuntu 20.04 LTS pre-installed

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Post by nobleach »

ssivark wrote: post #91
nobleach wrote: post #79

I had considered buying the 15 inch XPS to replace my Thinkpad X1C (6th gen). I really need 32 Gigs to run kubernetes and compile GraalVM images locally. But the latest XPS 15 has the RAM soldered to the board. This means if I want 32 Gigs, I have to pony up the premium price. They do have a Precision that is basically the same specs that DOES allow upgrading the RAM. The biggest problem is, Dell's website has the op…

Why not the Thinkpad T-series then?

For me, it's been battery life. Even running TLP, my Current ultra-light just isn't seeing great battery life. It's fine now working from home, and plugged in all day. But should I ever get back to taking it to meeting after meeting at the office.... I want to say, I see 4 hours unplugged depending on what I'm doing. (not watching video)

Re: Dell XPS 13 Developer Edition with Ubuntu 20.04 LTS pre-installed

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Post by dkersten »

RNCTX wrote: post #93
dkersten wrote: post #74

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> need a new motherboard / some drastic problem Only because apple won’t do simple repairs. Eg, blwn capacitor worth 40 cent? New motherboard worth hundreds! [1] Of course, to the end user, the effect is the same... [1] https://youtu.be/o2_SZ4tfLns and https://youtu.be/K1A9y4S60kg for just two examples

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I find it highly unlikely that there are repair contractors with people sitting behind magnifying glasses and soldering irons. I would suspect that toss and replace is the norm across the whole spectrum of hardware sellers. You could debate Apple's design choices like... say... riveted keyboards, and they'd argue durability as a retort, but I don't think they're any better or worse than o…

Maybe not (although Louis Rossmann does say that he checks and has many videos where he does), but they do typically at least check the connectors and the main components.

My brother has had a water-damaged macbook pro repaired by a third party repair shop when apple said the only thing that can be done is a logic board replacement and they fixed it without replacing it.

Re: Dell XPS 13 Developer Edition with Ubuntu 20.04 LTS pre-installed

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Post by rudiv »

RNCTX wrote: post #93
dkersten wrote: post #74

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> need a new motherboard / some drastic problem Only because apple won’t do simple repairs. Eg, blwn capacitor worth 40 cent? New motherboard worth hundreds! [1] Of course, to the end user, the effect is the same... [1] https://youtu.be/o2_SZ4tfLns and https://youtu.be/K1A9y4S60kg for just two examples

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I find it highly unlikely that there are repair contractors with people sitting behind magnifying glasses and soldering irons. I would suspect that toss and replace is the norm across the whole spectrum of hardware sellers. You could debate Apple's design choices like... say... riveted keyboards, and they'd argue durability as a retort, but I don't think they're any better or worse than o…

From my knowledge of working as an ACMT, Apple processes every part it takes out of a computer during repair service. I couldn't say how many are fixed in the manner you're talking about, but I can say that a significant proportion of parts we received for warranty service were clearly 'remanufactured' parts. So that kind of toss-and-replace doesn't even really happen at Apple itself.

Re: Dell XPS 13 Developer Edition with Ubuntu 20.04 LTS pre-installed

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Post by neogodless »

bitL wrote: post #90
pedrocr wrote: post #16

At this point, waiting for the mobile Ryzens to appear across the laptop ranges seems like a good idea. They've crammed 8 cores instead of 4 into the same TDP and made laptop chips that are in the same ballpark as the dekstop counterparts: https://www.cpubenchmark.net/compare/Intel-i7-10610U-vs-AMD-... The graphics should also be better than the Intel ones. So far the only interesting laptop I've seen is the Lenovo T…

As you mentioned, AMD laptops are gimped, either by an inferior screen, lower amount of memory (imagine 8GB limit for an 8-core Ryzen or 16GB limit for a dual core i3) or some other specification is not up to high end standard.

The HP Omen 15 has a solid 300-nit 97% sRGB screen, 70Wh battery, and dual channel 16GB. There's also the HP ENVY x360 with available 400-nit/1000-nit screens paired with 16GB and an 8 core Ryzen 7 4700U. Both a bit pricey but I'm glad they exist.

I agree the vast majority of AMD laptops have unacceptable compromises baked in. I can't help but believe this will change now that the APUs are arguably on par for games and massively more efficient for other tasks.

Re: Dell XPS 13 Developer Edition with Ubuntu 20.04 LTS pre-installed

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Post by neogodless »

toastal wrote: post #92
bitL wrote: post #90

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As you mentioned, AMD laptops are gimped, either by an inferior screen, lower amount of memory (imagine 8GB limit for an 8-core Ryzen or 16GB limit for a dual core i3) or some other specification is not up to high end standard.

And no Thunderbolt for patent reasons

My understanding is that it is now legal for OEMs to implement Thunderbolt on AMD laptops, though it may cost more since it's not baked into the CPU. Of course, no OEMs have taken the opportunity to do so yet.

Re: Dell XPS 13 Developer Edition with Ubuntu 20.04 LTS pre-installed

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Post by neogodless »

dr_zoidberg wrote: post #58
codecamper wrote: post #44

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Anyone know how well power management works with AMD and linux? Would those AMD 8 core chips consume a similar amount of power to the i7-1065G7? (quad core 10nm)

> Would those AMD 8 core chips consume a similar amount of power to the i7-1065G7? (quad core 10nm) A very quick summary: about the same. Intel seems to still have the lead on quickly going to lower energy states, but AMD still has the upper hand on better node: TSMCs 7nm is better than Intels 10nm+, but 11th gen 10++ seems to have finally matured enough to be on par, so Tiger Lake will be interesting to see. If your…

Is the HP Omen 15 with 70 Wh available in your country yet?

Re: Dell XPS 13 Developer Edition with Ubuntu 20.04 LTS pre-installed

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Post by RandomBacon »

emiliovesprini wrote: post #77
fartcannon wrote: post #38

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Agreed. And Id prefer they return to 5x4 for all tablets and tablet PCs. I had a tablet PC back in 04 that was a 5x4 ratio Toshiba R10 and it was marvelous. I ran Linux on it! 16 years ago!

No half measures! let's go 1:1 baby.

They exist! (Well as a freestanding monitor.) I have one, and it's glorious!

https://www.eizo.com/products/flexscan/ev2730q/

Re: Dell XPS 13 Developer Edition with Ubuntu 20.04 LTS pre-installed

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Post by RandomBacon »

philplckthun wrote: post #53

I only ever owned an XPS 13 9350 (~2015) and it suffers from really horrible coil whine, regardless of whether anything is plugged in or not. I really wonder whether they’ve fixed this issue, as I’ve heard that some models after this one still suffered from the same.

I have the current model (9300 ~2020) running Ubuntu 20.04. I do not have coil whine, and I couldn't find anyone else reporting coil whine when I bought it 2 months ago (I bought the Windows version and installed Ubuntu myself).
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