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Verizon suspends advertising on Facebook, joins growing boycott

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Re: Verizon suspends advertising on Facebook, joins growing boycott

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Post by bowmessage »

PascLeRasc wrote: post #66
cwhiz wrote: post #41

We want Facebook to censor speech on Facebook! But oh not all speech just some speech that we don’t like. Only we are allowed to define the type of speech we don’t like. And we reserve the right to change at any time. So, please just censor speech that we don’t like. On this day. At this hour. At this minute. And next minute we’ll tell you what to censor next.

That's a good start! But what we really want is for Facebook to go out of business.

Why? It’s fine if you don’t derive value from their product, but clearly others do, and if they were to go under something else just as evil, if not more, would immediately take its place. Is it not more worthwhile to fix the issues with society that make Facebook unpleasant?

Re: Verizon suspends advertising on Facebook, joins growing boycott

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Post by solidasparagus »

Consultant32452 wrote: post #96
hedora wrote: post #78

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Trump did more than you suggest. He used well understood language (“when the looting starts the shooting starts” is a famous quote from a white supremacist) to encourage his supporters to murder/lynch blacks. His campaign eventually started using Nazi imagery suggesting various opposition groups and protestors should be sent to concentration camps. Facebook pulled the ad. Around the same time, he used Twitter to (suc…

I think you're giving Trump too much credit. I find it difficult to believe Trump is highly educated about anything, much less esoteric quotes and symbols used by dead racist people.

He just parrots what he sees/hears and he spends a lot of time looking at far right content.

Re: Verizon suspends advertising on Facebook, joins growing boycott

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Post by flatline »

dustingetz wrote: post #56
cwhiz wrote: post #41

We want Facebook to censor speech on Facebook! But oh not all speech just some speech that we don’t like. Only we are allowed to define the type of speech we don’t like. And we reserve the right to change at any time. So, please just censor speech that we don’t like. On this day. At this hour. At this minute. And next minute we’ll tell you what to censor next.

the whole point of a democracy is to give the people what the want

This is more free market capitalism than democracy per se. Facebook is not state run media and Verizon is deciding where to spend it’s money - or in this case, not. I’m not sure what “the people” really have to do with it, except that Verizon is presumably catering to some group of people with this move, or doing it out of some other form of self-interest.

Re: Verizon suspends advertising on Facebook, joins growing boycott

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Post by iamstupidsimple »

metachor wrote: post #25
0xDEADBEF wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Selling lemonade, running a bike shop, etc.

You seem to be confusing small businesses with corporations, as if they have the same economic and power imperatives.

There's no difference except size. Facebook and Google were small businesses once.

Re: Verizon suspends advertising on Facebook, joins growing boycott

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Post by young_unixer »

seppin wrote: post #74
cwhiz wrote: post #41

We want Facebook to censor speech on Facebook! But oh not all speech just some speech that we don’t like. Only we are allowed to define the type of speech we don’t like. And we reserve the right to change at any time. So, please just censor speech that we don’t like. On this day. At this hour. At this minute. And next minute we’ll tell you what to censor next.

Speech that leads to violence, how about starting with that?

Ban all politics from Facebook then?

Re: Verizon suspends advertising on Facebook, joins growing boycott

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Post by rainyMammoth »

I would boycott Facebook for other reasons than them not boycotting Trump ads.

Facebook is simply a TERRIBLE company. They make us lose billions of hours and created a mental health epidemic, especially in teenagers that cannot stop comparing themselves with other's fake life on Facebook. That is a good enough reason to not want to advertise on that platform.

Re: Verizon suspends advertising on Facebook, joins growing boycott

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Post by wheelie_boy »

cwhiz wrote: post #41

We want Facebook to censor speech on Facebook! But oh not all speech just some speech that we don’t like. Only we are allowed to define the type of speech we don’t like. And we reserve the right to change at any time. So, please just censor speech that we don’t like. On this day. At this hour. At this minute. And next minute we’ll tell you what to censor next.

> We want Facebook to censor speech on Facebook!

Well, Verizon doesn't want their ads running next to certain types of speech, correct. Not sure if that's censoring.

> But oh not all speech just some speech that we don’t like. Only we are allowed to define the type of speech we don’t like. And we reserve the right to change at any time.

> So, please just censor speech that we don’t like. On this day. At this hour. At this minute. And next minute we’ll tell you what to censor next.

That does sound like a lot of work to keep up with what is considered acceptable in polite society. I know I have no interest in starting a social media company. But Facebook is making their money from advertisers against user-generated content, so they made their bed, as has every other social media company funded by ads.

Re: Verizon suspends advertising on Facebook, joins growing boycott

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Post by hedora »

0xDEADBEF wrote: post #23
birdyrooster wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Can you give me an example of something businesses do which isn’t political?

Selling lemonade, running a bike shop, etc.

I used to get harassed during my bike commute by MAGA douchebags.
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