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If Apple died I'd be sad. Likewise Stitchfix and Digital Ocean and Github and Airbnb. Hell, maybe even Microsoft a little bit. But not Facebook or Google.
If I started a company one of my goals would be to create a lasting culture providing enough real value that at least a few people other than the employees would be sad when it died.
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Your comment removes so much context that it's nearly deceptive. He threatened military violence against rioting and looting, driven by terrorism. Some of these rioters set fire to occupied buildings with children inside and prevented emergency services from accessing the location. In other words, property destruction and attempted murder. Do you propose this behavior should be met with praise and not violence?
Property destruction should absolutely not be met with violence, no. Things can be replaced. People cannot.
Um, no. I value my property more than I value your life, the law happens to agree with me, deadly force can be used to defend my property. Property destruction should be, and is, met with deadly violence; your right to life does not outrank my right to my property.
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Please point out exactly where I justified police behavior or said they're all innocent, or downplayed the initial incident. I saw the video, it's disgusting. But torching a residential building with children inside as a response? How is that okay?
> But torching a residential building with children inside "But the children!" It was vacant. Nice try, though. No one is condoning this specific act, but I'm not going to damn everything else because if it. That's absolutely silly.
Torching black-owned businesses? Looting critical supplies from pharmacies, supermarkets and other retailers? Stoning people nearly to death in the street? Murdering a federal officer in California?
Where's the line? What's acceptable?
FWIW, the vast majority of protesters involved are not involved in the aforementioned acts.
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>Please don't put words in my mouth. It's a simple question, and I never implied your response either way. Do you think violence by police or military is justified when individuals are setting fire to occupied buildings?
It's the job of the police to de-escalate . Sometimes, this may fail and some harm might be done in the hands of the police. However, being a police officer should never be a free ticket to inflict violence with impunity, and this is what people are advocating for. As for the military, it simply isn't their job to police their own citizens. Frankly, I don't know why I'm having to say this. I'm just stating the obviou…
No, it isn't. It's the job of the police to enforce the law, if necessary with overwhelming force.
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We're in this situation because of police unions. Fuck any SWE union. It'll be full of xenophobic crackpots.
What? Damn, what's happening here?
Collective bargaining is a powerful tool. I recognize that and think it would be good for good people to have. But the danger is too high here.
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I don't support unions because unions drag everyone's wages to an average (I'd rather be a top performer and be paid accordingly). Also, I've seen first hand the amount of incompetent teachers, police and government employees who are unfireable because of unions. So the concept of a union for me personally means I'll be paid less, be surrounded by unfireable underperformers and have zero incentive to improve my craft…
This viewpoint always seemed silly to me. Actors have a union, yet the variation between highest paid actors and low paid actors is in the hundreds of millions.
This rewards ineptitude, punishes high performance and punishes children.
The worst thing about unions is protecting low performers, though.
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It's the job of the police to de-escalate . Sometimes, this may fail and some harm might be done in the hands of the police. However, being a police officer should never be a free ticket to inflict violence with impunity, and this is what people are advocating for. As for the military, it simply isn't their job to police their own citizens. Frankly, I don't know why I'm having to say this. I'm just stating the obviou…
How do you de-escalate an occupied building on fire with violent protestors preventing emergency services from saving children? The police are obviously totally overwhelmed, and like it or not the military has the legal authority to operate domestically and without them being there more people could've died. I don't understand your position. There's an occupied building on fire, with children inside. Protesters are a…
Anyways, you're ignoring the bigger picture, the mountain of bodies that led to this situation in the first place. The civil unrest we're seeing wouldn't have happened at all if policing across the country was done in a sane manner. The numerous reports of unjustified police violence in the midst of this crisis is already making things worse, and there's no need for the military to add to that.
You'd think Americans, out of all countries, would understand this.
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What? Damn, what's happening here?
Sorry, I'll make the connection which was obviously unclear because I skipped a lot of steps. Unions concentrate power. Concentrated power is easy to take hold of (cf. Coup d'Etat , E Luttwak). Lots of SWEs are incredibly xenophobic - can tell in any thread on HN and Reddit on H-1Bs. Xenophobes (of whom there are many) tend to be protectionist. Xenophobic protectionists are very good at holding power. Therefore, give…