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Re: How to Become a Hacker

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post #82

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Sounds like you have bad computer job experiences.

20+ years on I've had some good, some bad and some occasionally wonderful. It's not a bad profession, as professions go: things are generally very cushy and you can, from time to time, experience the same elation as when exploring on your own (though, for me, it's getting increasingly rare). It's a big difference between sating your own curiosity in a hackeresque way, learning about what interests you, programming wh…

Programming would be awesome without having to mess with customers.

Re: How to Become a Hacker

#102
post #69

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The term "hacker" predates electronic computers. It is originally used to refer to someone that creatively uses systems in unexpected, unconventional, and generally creative ways. Media portrayal in the mid 90s grabbed on to this term without understanding its actual context. One potential source of the term is the MIT model train club, but that is up for dispute as some claim it existed before that. There are more s…

What's your stance on the term "cracker"? I was super into reverse engineering and loved the challenge. It seemed at some point "cracker" moved away from someone who can break software protections through reversing to someone who uses tooling to break into systems, without understanding how computers work. I still prefer "cracker" as someone who can reverse and break software protections. Also, Thanks for helping out…

There was a movement around 2000 to define hackers as the good guys and crackers the bad guys who break into computer systems and cause damage. I believe that movement failed.

A cracker, to me, is someone who breaks software protection. A hacker can be good or bad, and that makes the word more fun.

Re: How to Become a Hacker

#103
post #77

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Hmm... God comes down, allows the person that tries to convince me to fly and zaps us to another planet where other lifeforms are. If there aren't any others, then he zaps us to a planet that God thinks is simply amazingly cool (and comfortable enough for us humans). God tells us something that humans may found out in 100k years from now. It doesn't have to be knowledge that is valuable for me to use right now. It sh…

Ok, thanks for the reply. Just curious, what would be the 'MVE' (minimum viable evidence) such that you would choose to believe? For example, if instead of flying and zapping to another planet, what if they just fly (without some mechanical invention)? > Oh, and it should be done in such a way that I can know 100% that it wasn't because of some weird mushroom/drug trip. How you can you know 100%? That doesn't make an…

> Just curious, what would be the 'MVE' (minimum viable evidence) such that you would choose to believe?

I'm simply answering this honestly and I'll confess that I'm not a model citizen on this. In any case, I'm too lazy to think about it. That's the answer. It's why I have a bit of an over the top heuristic. But I also think: surely if one is all powerful, that's not an issue.

> How you can you know 100%? That doesn't make any sense.

God is all powerful, God can devise a scheme in which I'll know it 100%. Here's one for you: I believe that humans have powers that are to quite similar to telepathy, not the same though. We call it WhatsApp. That's extraordinary evidence in such a way that I'll know it 100%. Currently we're moving to machine learning inferring brain patterns. We might actually get to real telepathy.

To me that just sounds insane! But it's true! What?! I am the type of person that finds it quite easy to imagine that I'm simply just a human and nothing more than that. From that baseline our modern world is so crazily magical. It would be awesome if God is in that, but it doesn't need to be in its sheer magicalness.

I have one hypothetical reason why a God (or god-like civilization) might exist. That would be the simulation argument. Also, if we're capable of reproducing consciousness and run simulations, then who is to say that someone isn't already running one? What I do believe is that we might have the potential of becoming Gods as a species. We're trying our damn hardest anyway.

If we're capable of engineering anything and travel anywhere, then one might ask if we can create the exact same universe as we are in right now where (if determinism is real, big if) and if we can do that... Well then again, we might wonder, has this happened before?

So interestingly enough, in my mind, the process of science can turn out to be a very very religious endeavour. Or it might be able to completely dispell it.

It's all speculation during my lifetime though. So I like to keep it to the realms of highly reproduced science (aka engineering and to a big extent physics).

But yea, that doesn't say much about the Christian God, or any religion really. Science is my religion, I simply like the process more of having evidence for things than believing a certain book is the holy word and that I should take it seriously.

I'm sorry if I ranted a bit too much. I don't usually talk about this stuff as it is highly speculative and I have better things to do with my time such as focusing on reality.

I appreciate the non-judgemental tone of the questions by the way.

Re: How to Become a Hacker

#104
post #81

I'm reposting part of a comment I wrote (and adding to it). My version on how to become a hacker. It's just another reference point. Step 1: Go to http://www.catb.org/esr/faqs/hacker-howto.html Step 1b (bonus): read Hacker News (it actually helped, it also really distracted, the latter part is why it's labeled as bonus ) Step 2: Complete Binary and Malware Analysis at the Vrije Universiteit Step 3: Complete Computer…

Serious Question, why is there such a heavy infatuation / prerequisite to running Linux to become a hacker? Is it for folks who are focused on going below the application layer (working on OS/Kernal etc) or just general. I find my MacOS to be such a comfortable system to hack and wonder if I actually need to move to Linux natively to get more involved in projects below the application layer.

Linux is open. It's a lot more conducive in letting you know more about what's going on underneath.

Re: How to Become a Hacker

#105
post #27

This is confusing. "Hacker" is a person who uses computers to gain unauthorized access to data. "Software Engineer" is the right approach. "Hacker Spirit" lol

The term "hacker" predates electronic computers. It is originally used to refer to someone that creatively uses systems in unexpected, unconventional, and generally creative ways. Media portrayal in the mid 90s grabbed on to this term without understanding its actual context. One potential source of the term is the MIT model train club, but that is up for dispute as some claim it existed before that. There are more s…

The term hacker is indeed pretty old. As far as I know the MIT model train club divided themselves into the artists who worked on the scenery on top of the board and the hackers who worked on the underside of the board on the fancy electrical switching they had adapted (hacked) from telephone exchanges. When computers first arrived at MIT this latter group moved their focus to them and the term "hacker" moved with them into computing.

Other comments have mentioned "cracker" in relation to invading systems. Before computers we had "safe-crackers".

Re: How to Become a Hacker

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Thanks for sharing my blog post! :) I think something I would have included that I thought about later is being curiosity driven. It's more personal, but I've found a lot of what I've really enjoyed (and where I've learned the most) has been from allowing myself to go down random rabbit holes to play with different things. There's some risk to this if you never go deep enough, but I think the benefits are worth it. I…

Thanks for putting this down. I too have sweet memories of original article. After reading ESR article, I chose Python over Perl few years back, and kick off my career. But the most important thing article taught me is about hacker mindset.

Re: How to Become a Hacker

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I'm reposting part of a comment I wrote (and adding to it). My version on how to become a hacker. It's just another reference point. Step 1: Go to http://www.catb.org/esr/faqs/hacker-howto.html Step 1b (bonus): read Hacker News (it actually helped, it also really distracted, the latter part is why it's labeled as bonus ) Step 2: Complete Binary and Malware Analysis at the Vrije Universiteit Step 3: Complete Computer…

I don't get this comment, it feels like "just follow a master in security lmao".

With this knowledge one can become a hacker. It's that simple. I've hacked into systems by using my curiosity and this background knowledge.

A hacker is defined as someone who's curious about technology. If you have this knowledge and apply your curiosity to understanding more of it, especially on how systems shouldn't behave but somehow do, then you're a hacker. An example of this type of hacking is creating Tetris in the game of life.

If you break into a computer system (legal or illegal), you're a hacker.

This knowledge helps you to both goals. It helps towards the broadest definition of what being a hacker is, no matter which person you talk to. There is of course the requirement that you're curious as well. But IMO if you're capable of successfully passing this, then you are curious and when given free reign, it'll be applied and you'll learn even more about computer systems.

It's not the only way, but it's one way of doing it. It's not the best way either, but it does answer the question: I want to become a hacker? How? Well, follow this path, tick off every box, notice the change within you and your thinking and voila. You're a hacker.

Obviosly, this is simply my opinion. Feel free to disagree. But I do view that it is that simple. Bear in mind that this path takes at least 2 years if you don't know how to program. So it's much easier said than done. It took me 8 years to get to this point (I studied a lot of other things).

Given that explanation, is there something you don't get? It's a genuine question.

Re: How to Become a Hacker

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Most of those guys operated under circumstances vastly different from today. If you can land a job like those at PARC or Bell Labs, then yes, "carreer hacking" is certainly possible. Considering how many IT professionals there are now and how few there were back then, I'd say those kinds of jobs are even more scarce now than they used to be. It's not impossible, but it's not a realistic expectation. > If you’re devot…

> If you can land a job like those at PARC or Bell Labs, then yes, "carreer hacking" is certainly possible. I wonder what the modern version of these are.

In "UNIX: A History and a Memoir", BWK claims he doesn't know of anything equivalent today.

Re: How to Become a Hacker

#109
post #92

I don't like this new definition of the word "hacker". I wish people would call builders and tinkerers something else. We have all this strong history with hackers who are the ones that infiltrate systems. And now someone makes an app and he/she is a hacker. Somehow I feel like there's a necessity to feel special and unique. This word is so soft now.

Curious to see this comment on "Hacker News". Did you think this resource was about the infiltration profession?

Yup, on hacker news, that doesn't mean I like the name of this page, right?

Re: How to Become a Hacker

#110

I don't like this new definition of the word "hacker". I wish people would call builders and tinkerers something else. We have all this strong history with hackers who are the ones that infiltrate systems. And now someone makes an app and he/she is a hacker. Somehow I feel like there's a necessity to feel special and unique. This word is so soft now.

Absolutely agreed, the word used to carry a good bit of street cred but now everyone and their grandma is a hacker.

This is exactly what I mean. But I guess I'm a minority here
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