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Re: CNN reporter arrested live on air while covering Minneapolis protests [video]

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Post by danesparza »

zdragnar wrote: post #86
papercrane wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

According to CNN's timeline the police asked them to move at 5:09 AM, the reporter asked where they wanted them, at 5:11 AM the police arrested them. The reporter was not given the chance to follow directions. https://www.cnn.com/us/live-news/george-floyd-protest-update...

This is a pragmatic point of view, not necessarily what I believe is "right": Generally speaking, you don't stand around and try to have a conversation with the police. In a tough situation, the very last priority of the police is helping CNN get a nice camera shot. Had they moved immediately upon being given the order to clear the street, then attempted to have the conversation, they likely would not have faced arre…

"Helping CNN get a nice camera shot" is something you read into this.

Asking where to move to is a reasonable question to ask the police. Arrest is not a reasonable response.

Re: CNN reporter arrested live on air while covering Minneapolis protests [video]

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Post by myko »

spoiledtechie wrote: post #15
maskedinvader wrote: post #8

Isn't this situational irony ? reporters covering the events that were a result of unreasonable police actions themselves were subject to the unreasonable actions of the police.

I wouldn't call it unreasonable. They were told to clear the streets. They didn't actually clear the street. They stayed on the street. Reporters not following directions.

> I wouldn't call it unreasonable. They were told to clear the streets. They didn't actually clear the street. They stayed on the street. Reporters not following directions.

It was recorded, you know. You can watch it yourself. They were asked to move, they asked where they should move to, and instead of being told where to go they were arrested.

Re: CNN reporter arrested live on air while covering Minneapolis protests [video]

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Post by take_a_breath »

Hamuko wrote: post #39
kmonsen wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

He was telling them they were live, I think he was reporting while being black.

There's a difference between being told something and knowing something.

Kinda like when someone says "I can't breathe" and you can't really know until they die.

Re: CNN reporter arrested live on air while covering Minneapolis protests [video]

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Post by fiblye »

maest wrote: post #88
fiblye wrote: post #68

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I can't say exactly what the reasoning was, but watching the full video, they hauled off the black reporter alone, then after a substantial delay, arrested the others all at once. Almost as if they had an "oh wait people might notice this" moment.

It looked like they were hauling people off one-by-one, which could reasonably be standard procedure for riot situations. Isolate individuals from the group and handle them separately - that sort of thing. Moreover, they started with the reporter, since he seemed to be the leader of the group (e.g. he was the one doing the talking).

I mean, there's being a leader of a group involved in a riot and then there's a reporting crew. If one of them is standing in place with a microphone and film equipment and explaining the situation in monotone while calmly asking what they need to do to comply, it's pretty clear which one they are.

The wording there with him seeming to be the leader of the group sounds like an anthropologist finding a completely unknown tribe of people. At any time, the police could've just used their words, instead of being silent, surrounding the entire group, then suddenly arresting one person and waiting a full 2 minutes (precisely two minutes) before simultaneously arresting the others.

Re: CNN reporter arrested live on air while covering Minneapolis protests [video]

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Post by monocasa »

JSavageOne wrote: post #98

How is it legal for a police offer to arrest someone without any warning, without even telling them why they're being arrested, and without probable cause? What are the repercussions for these officers for falsely arresting people? Do they suffer any consequences, or do they suffer no punishment for this injustice? This is extremely disturbing, and further evidence that the U.S. is a police state. I've never felt mor…

> How is it legal for a police offer to arrest someone without any warning, without even telling them why they're being arrested, and without probable cause?

Cops can hold you for some amount of time, generally around 24 hours without cause.

> What are the repercussions for these officers for falsely arresting people?

None

> Do they suffer any consequences, or do they suffer no punishment for this injustice?

No punishment.

Re: CNN reporter arrested live on air while covering Minneapolis protests [video]

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Post by acobster »

meragrin_ wrote: post #35
kmonsen wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The arrested reporter was black, there was another White CB reporter standing nearby that was not arrested. Perhaps it’s all coincidence. https://www.cnn.com/2020/05/29/us/minneapolis-cnn-crew-arres...

The producer and camera man were not so it was not strictly based on race. I just find it very convenient there is no other video of the arrest. They were probably the only camera crew around and the cops wanted them gone.

And that is a defense of the cops' actions how?

Re: CNN reporter arrested live on air while covering Minneapolis protests [video]

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Post by relativitypro »

Frost1x wrote: post #17
myrion wrote: post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I mean, it happened live on air, they were clearly identified as CNN and willing to comply with police orders - making the police's claim laughable. I wonder what those officers were thinking, arresting a reporter on live camera.

It took quite awhile before they decided to arrest the reporter (Omar Jimenez). I suspect the decision came from higher up given the time delay (due to communication). I was watching this particular reporter late last night / early this morning and his coverage was, IMO, excellent to give some context and feel for the ongoing situation. It was pretty surreal to watch, for me, and notice absolutely no actions from law…

Cannot be the right call. The tax payers lose in the coverage and they lose in the lawsuit.

Having police officers paid so little that you put up with 18 violations, or willfully ignore them out of comraderie is fundamentally a system that is not sustainable or worth having pride over.

Re: CNN reporter arrested live on air while covering Minneapolis protests [video]

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Post by _bxg1 »

throwaway894345 wrote: post #80
snazz wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

(I'm a resident of the Minneapolis suburbs) At this point, from some of my friends in the city, it sounds like there just isn't much oversight at all---they've now been caught on video taking guns from people with valid licenses and now arresting the press. I don't think that we can effectively apply logic when the police system seems so disorganized.

These seem like flagrant violations of constitutional rights; I would be interested to hear from a lawyer what kind of legal liability the police (as a department and as individual bad-apple officers) are opening themselves up to by behaving this way. Hopefully justice is served and constitutional rights are protected.

It's become clear time and again that they never open themselves up to actual liability. But it would be interesting to hear how wide the gap is between law and reality in this case.
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