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Re: Google no longer providing original URL in AMP for image search results

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AMP results are annoying enough on mobile that I switched my default search engine to duckduckgo on my phone.

Same. And it's been maddening, because while DDG is fine and sometimes better for desktop work (code questions, stack overflow, professional stuff), I find it far inferior for mobile stuff (getting around, local recommendations, shopping, etc.).

But if that's what it takes to get the real web, so be it.

Re: Google no longer providing original URL in AMP for image search results

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post #93

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I have thought the same for year and finally just switched to iOS.

Yeah, but then you have another vendor lock in, not to mention that apple products are expensive for me, I don't have an US salary.

I just had a discussion with someone on Lobsters about the actual cost of a lower-end iPhone versus a similarly-priced Android phone and the iPhone appeared cheaper:

> The Pixel 4 is $799 and the Pixel 3a is $399 (although it may be on sale right now depending on your region). The iPhone 11 is $699 and the iPhone SE (2nd generation) is $399. Both provide additional discounts if you trade in your current phone (and since iPhones have a lot more resale value, you can get much more for your trade-in). Google provides three years of security updates, starting from the time that the phone is released. Apple provides four or five years of security (and feature!) updates. You can get the same amount of usable life out of a brand-new Pixel as a one- or two-year-old iPhone, which puts the per-year price strongly in Apple's favor. Other Android devices, like those made by Samsung, are usually even more expensive and have fewer years of guaranteed security updates. Apple even backports extremely high-severity security patches and major bug fixes (like the GPS rollover patch) to devices that would be considered "obsolete" by Android manufacturers.

So the iPhone might be a higher upfront cost, but it's a significantly lower per-year cost, especially if you get last year's model or the SE.

Re: Google no longer providing original URL in AMP for image search results

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post #30

My unpopular opinion. I love AMP. Mobile internet for me ( maybe on worse devices ), was becoming a non-thing for me. AMP let's me check the news again. My opinion might be because I don't have much understanding of it as a framework, but from a non power user perspective, I've found the UX to be amazing.

AMP in part made me switch to Apple News - it's buggy and doesn't respect browser history (major usability failure on Google's part).

Regrettably Apple News will occasionally drop sections of the content it doesn’t know how to render properly, leaving the news article bafflingly incomplete, and usually it’s not obvious that something is missing.

Re: Google no longer providing original URL in AMP for image search results

#106
For anyone on the fence about using DuckDuckGo instead of Google, if you don't find what you're looking for, it's easy to revert to a Google search by typing "!google" with your query.

DDG has improved a lot with time, so I almost never fall back to Google anymore.

For some technical searches that DDG can't find, I find codeseek.com is better than both Google and DDG

Re: Google no longer providing original URL in AMP for image search results

#107
I have never liked AMP and I really don't like this. I also find myself wondering if this has any security implications.

I mean if AMP effectively disguises the original URL could it not be used for phishing?

To be clear I know very little about AMP and if this is the case

Regardless it just adds complexity and makes it that much harder to teach people what is an acceptable URL when it comes to email links etc...

Re: Google no longer providing original URL in AMP for image search results

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post #89
post #51

Earlier quoted context omitted.

After they took away peoples' ability to MITM their own stuff by forcing HTTPS everywhere under the guise of privacy.

Not everyone joined the https party. The additional overhead on sites isn't justified for sites you don't even log into.

Via http you expose the GET headers, i.e. everyone can see the urls you're browsing, even if you don't login to pornhub.

Re: Google no longer providing original URL in AMP for image search results

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post #26

AMP really has to go away, its a MITM attack on the internet. Google discontinues so many services, why is AMP not one of them yet?

The worst thing I've seen recently is amp URLs for reddit threads. It's one bad thing (new reddit UI) wrapped in a worse thing (AMP), and getting back to classic reddit takes a lot of gymnastics. The stupid part is that the amp page is indistinguishable from the (new) reddit page (the AMP page comes complete with the "download our app" popup). So I don't see how it's providing any speed/experience benefit.

Re: Google no longer providing original URL in AMP for image search results

#110

Why can't they just give a simple setting which lets users disable AMP? This is the most annoying about being forced to use AMP.

Who's being forced to use AMP? The user? Remember, the user is the product .

And the publishers are somewhat coerced into implementing it, at the cost of being downranked if they don't.
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