This reminds me of a benchmark of sorts, that gave a ratio of the size of a whole size to the size of its image rendered as JPEG. One could think of a map overlay to bring back some interactivity. Does anyone remember it? It was once featured on HN, but I can't find it now.
It's 2020 and I'm using image maps
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Re: It's 2020 and I'm using image maps
#102This reminds me of a benchmark of sorts, that gave a ratio of the size of a whole size to the size of its image rendered as JPEG. One could think of a map overlay to bring back some interactivity. Does anyone remember it? It was once featured on HN, but I can't find it now.
Could be this: https://www.webbloatscore.com/ https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12783898
Thanks, that's it!
Re: It's 2020 and I'm using image maps
#10390s starter pack: Framesets, image maps, marquees, blink, guestbooks, visit counters, "under construction", "webmaster", tiled backgrounds. The weirdest: MIDI music on autoplay, VRML.
Java Applets, Dynamic HTML, Perl/CGI, executable email attachments, MSIE vs Netscape
Download managers, ICQ.
Re: It's 2020 and I'm using image maps
#104Earlier quoted context omitted.
This would be accessible anywhere on any computer hooked up to the internet, even potentially a phone, tablet, raspberry pi, your grandma's computer, etc. Many programs that don't need low level access like spreadsheets, pdf readers, word processors, image editors, etc.could be made into single page html files that would both be sandboxed and cross platform.
> This would be accessible anywhere on any computer hooked up to the internet, If you has access to internet you could also download & install native app. Also native app once installed could be used without internet access.
Did you miss that part about compatibility on tablets, phones, raspberry pi boards and anything with a web browser?
Re: It's 2020 and I'm using image maps
#105I used to love image maps: really useful for adding hotlinks and hover effects to images. Sadly they can't deal with the modern responsive web - though there exist some Wordpress plugins to help overcome that issue. This CSS article[1] goes into details about alternative approaches. It mainly seems to be SVG, or CSS clip paths. I've used (and like) SVG; CSS clip paths are foreign territory to me - has anyone used the…
Don't CSS transforms work on image maps? I bet you could do some media query magic + scale() to make it work.
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Nothing wrong really. Tables used to sucks in IE era. But now IE is gone. Modern HTML Tables are fine as long as you know its limitations or basically dont try to do any fancy thing with it. For some strange reason I see people keep saying aviod table at all cost. I dont get it. May be someone could explain it better.
Bah! Every table cell should be a separate HTML file in a frameset. All clicks should be handled by a hidden frame and AJAX is a floor cleaner. PS. Get off my lawn.
My dad's employer didn't remove the Java applets from their website until I pointed out that navigation had been broken due to both Firefox and chrome having removed Java support. Until then, the menu showed pixelated hyperlink-blue text that changed color with a transition when hovered or clicked, and couldn't be used with the keyboard. Each link in the menu was a Java applet to take you to the next page.
Re: It's 2020 and I'm using image maps
#107Earlier quoted context omitted.
Bah! Every table cell should be a separate HTML file in a frameset. All clicks should be handled by a hidden frame and AJAX is a floor cleaner. PS. Get off my lawn.
My dad's employer didn't remove the Java applets from their website until I pointed out that navigation had been broken due to both Firefox and chrome having removed Java support. Until then, the menu showed pixelated hyperlink-blue text that changed color with a transition when hovered or clicked, and couldn't be used with the keyboard. Each link in the menu was a Java applet to take you to the next page.
That's beautifully terrible :-)
Re: It's 2020 and I'm using image maps
#108I still use tables for layouting because divs and messing with positioning/floating never really clicked for me.
Rendering issued aside, it's a good idea to use tables for what their designed for: displaying data. Using elements how they're specc'ed to be used makes the web a lot friendlier to screen readers and friendly neighborhood spider bots.
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To be fair, modern OSes are quickly catching up in this regard. WASM is also increasingly available for use as a native sandbox. Examples: ( https://github.com/WAVM/WAVM ) ( https://github.com/bytecodealliance/lucet )
Or you just run the installer in a sandbox/container, as has been possible for at least a decade in all major OSs Sandboxee was released in 2004, and there have been various bits of registry journaing/snapshot software since the late 1990's which combined with NT ACLs could provide at least as much security as your getting out of a browser sandbox. Browsers have an absolutely huge sandbox surface and lack even the mo…
> Or you just run the installer in a sandbox/container, as has been possible for at least a decade in all major OSs
The level of technical know-how necessary to accomplish that is astronomical compared to "here's a link," especially since it's cross-platform out of the box. That's why it's a no-brainer: any sane person is going to prefer that over installing untrusted software. Basically zero users know about the sandboxing solutions available for their system, much less willing put in the effort to Do It Right.